Terrorist attack on asylum centre

[Blue Maverick]

Why would the French by pissing themselves? They take in more refugees than we do.

And if a country of over 60m people can't deal with a new small town every year then we're in big trouble. 300,000 is the governments target for new homes EVERY year. We could easily absorb tens of thousands of migrants - and if we dealt with asylum seekers efficiently rather than simply thinking that we can somehow put them off, most of the associated problems would magically disappear.

Hold on if we have a housing shortage, where do they go? We have 60m people quite a lot who are on their arses right now with more to join them, the immigrants tend to be shipped to the poorest areas, where the current population are already struggling, local services can’t cope as it is. Look at the size of France it’s fucking huge compared to UK, build a small town in France they probably Would even notice. The French are getting millions off us and don’t seem to be stopping them do they? Is a small town with its full infrastructure built with schools, doctors dentists etc built every year to absorb them? Where is the cash coming from, in case you haven’t noticed austerity 2 is on its way, this is not a rant against immigrants, but at what point do we say enough? Christ they are in hotels in oldham 24/7, they are raking it in, rather than do weddings etc, like I said I don’t know what the answer is but right now whatever it sis they are doing it’s not working.

 

[jimharri]

Underrated comment. Can't stop laughing

I try. Indeed, I've often been told that I am a very trying bloke.

 

[bluenova]

Hold on if we have a housing shortage, where do they go? We have 60m people quite a lot who are on their arses right now with more to join them, the immigrants tend to be shipped to the poorest areas, where the current population are already struggling, local services can’t cope as it is. Look at the size of France it’s fucking huge compared to UK, build a small town in France they probably Would even notice. The French are getting millions off us and don’t seem to be stopping them do they? Is a small town with its full infrastructure built with schools, doctors dentists etc built every year to absorb them? Where is the cash coming from, in case you haven’t noticed austerity 2 is on its way, this is not a rant against immigrants, but at what point do we say enough? Christ they are in hotels in oldham 24/7, they are raking it in, rather than do weddings etc, like I said I don’t know what the answer is but right now whatever it sis they are doing it’s not working.

We could house all the immigrants that arrive for the next ten years on about 1% of the land taken up by golf courses in the UK. It really isn't a huge issue.

The problems of packing people off to hotels is mostly linked with rules about not working, and the mad times it takes to deal with decisions.

As for the money? As above, we're spending it on a system that doesn't work. How do you think any schools or hospitals get built? Because people work, and they grow the economy, and there's more money to build these things.

We're an island and, even with all the fuss over boats, it's pretty easy for us to limit the numbers to a fraction of a percent of the overall population. We'll never truly be overwhelmed in the way that countries on the western edges of Europe could be.

We should make decisions quickly, have immigration rules that allow people to work, even some economic migrants (have a look in the news for just how many businesses are complaining that they can't get staff after Brexit/Covid), and stop worrying. A few tens of thousands of people coming to the UK each year, particularly young people who have the energy and resourcefulness to get here from countries thousands of miles away, is never going to be a real issue, unless we make it into one.

 

[bakerdave76]

So he didn't hang around then ..ps one less bunt.

 

[Bill Walker]

We could house all the immigrants that arrive for the next ten years on about 1% of the land taken up by golf courses in the UK. It really isn't a huge issue.

The problems of packing people off to hotels is mostly linked with rules about not working, and the mad times it takes to deal with decisions.

As for the money? As above, we're spending it on a system that doesn't work. How do you think any schools or hospitals get built? Because people work, and they grow the economy, and there's more money to build these things.

We're an island and, even with all the fuss over boats, it's pretty easy for us to limit the numbers to a fraction of a percent of the overall population. We'll never truly be overwhelmed in the way that countries on the western edges of Europe could be.

We should make decisions quickly, have immigration rules that allow people to work, even some economic migrants (have a look in the news for just how many businesses are complaining that they can't get staff after Brexit/Covid), and stop worrying. A few tens of thousands of people coming to the UK each year, particularly young people who have the energy and resourcefulness to get here from countries thousands of miles away, is never going to be a real issue, unless we make it into one.

Agreed.
Some of those guys will have skills that are needed. Let them work for gods sake.

 

[Octavian]

Agreed.
Some of those guys will have skills that are needed. Let them work for gods sake.

They can if they apply for a visa and meet the requirements needed, to fill the gaps we have. It’s how the points system works.

Many of the migrants crossing the Channel, according to the stats provided by the BBC it is possibly half of those crossing, are young men coming from places where there isn’t immediate danger or war.

I think it’s fairly obvious many are being offered illegal work here and that’s why they’re coming.

Of course there are plenty who are genuine refugees and should be treated as such but the biggest increases in numbers are men from Albania and Iran… according to the BBC.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

They can if they apply for a visa and meet the requirements needed, to fill the gaps we have. It’s how the points system works.

Many of the migrants crossing the Channel, according to the stats provided by the BBC it is possibly half of those crossing, are young men coming from places where there isn’t immediate danger or war.

I think it’s fairly obvious many are being offered illegal work here and that’s why they’re coming.

Of course there are plenty who are genuine refugees and should be treated as such but the biggest increases in numbers are men from Albania and Iran… according to the BBC.

At the end of the day, we need more decision makers to process asylum applications. Then the ones that are successful can get work and the others are deported.

We gain the money to pay for the decision makers by not having to put asylum seekers in camps and hotels for so long.

The last information I saw about people crossing in dinghies suggested around 70% were successful in their application or after an appeal.

 

[youngbob]

Feels like this should be a bigger story than it is.

 

[bluenova]

At the end of the day, we need more decision makers to process asylum applications. Then the ones that are successful can get work and the others are deported.

We gain the money to pay for the decision makers by not having to put asylum seekers in camps and hotels for so long.

The last information I saw about people crossing in dinghies suggested around 70% were successful in their application or after an appeal.

You have to wonder whether some on the right actually want problems. There's apparently no political fallout from constantly making up immigration targets and then missing them - but there does seem to be a political bonus in being seen as "tougher" on an issue that never seems to get any better.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You have to wonder whether some on the right actually want problems. There's apparently no political fallout from constantly making up immigration targets and then missing them - but there does seem to be a political bonus in being seen as "tougher" on an issue that never seems to get any better.

It does seem to carry favour, unreasonably so in my opinion.

Most people don’t seem to care much about anybody outside of their family and friends. They can’t see doctors, so therefore it’s easy to blame the migrants, rather than the lack of investment in creating more doctors to allay the problem.