Tevez: A minute reason as to why he's invaluable

[ElanJo]

On the field Tevez is one of the very best around. Off it he seems a whiny twat but football isn't played off the field.

I'm glad Tevez is still here. When the games come thick and fast he will prove to be just as important as Dzeko and Aguero. He's currently 3rd choice and it's up to him to win his place back. This can only be good for Manchester City FC.

 

[Dax777]

On the field Tevez is one of the very best around. Off it he seems a whiny twat but football isn't played off the field.

I'm glad Tevez is still here. When the games come thick and fast he will prove to be just as important as Dzeko and Aguero. He's currently 3rd choice and it's up to him to win his place back. This can only be good for Manchester City FC.

Having Tevez and even Bellamy around might be a good thing. Especially considering our group in CL. We really can't play youths against anyone in our group. It will be a dog fight all thru.

 

[franksinatra]

summed it up very well there aussie. my thoughts exactly.

No one has said he's shite.

They're saying as a team, we now play better without him, i really don't think anyone can deny that. You can't also 'lol' at a comment and then make an example to agree with it?

Tevez on his day is in that top bracket of player, but as someone else said he's forced the manager to isolate him and plan for the future. I hope Mancini continues to do that and uses our squad accordingly, we can still use Tevez in the run up to January, but there's no guarantee that he'll be here after that, so why rely on him every game again?

You are playing better as a team because you have more players who contribute in attack this season than season before. If you consider Aguero as replacement to Tevez, you have signed Nasri and Dzeko is playing better this season. That is your improvement right there.

You have played just 3 games this season, don't be so sure that the season will go as good as it has done until now. There will definetly come some games where you will struggle to score against some teams, then you might realize the importance of Tevez in your last season.

Great post. The season if successful will consist of 60 games. Players will be injured, suffer dips in form and as happy as weare with the front players, its only three weeks into the season.

Tevez has done it for City for two years now, in all manner of games and occasions. Whether he is happy in Manchester is another issue but as the professional he is it has never affected his onfield performances.

Also to suggest he is selfish is ridiculous with the amount of tracking back and pressuring he performs, the unglamorous tasks which are solely to benefit the team. Hope he stays as he is a fantastic player.

 

[kara54]

The team Tevez played on is different from the team we have now, let us see Tevez on this team first before we decide whether our team play is better or worse.

This.

Last year, Tevez made me mad, for ignoring Dzeko many times on the pitch. And many of us noticed his selfishness on the pitch and his behaviour off the pitch.

But even I, a hardcore Dzeko fan for years, cannot understand why people slag off a player who was the MVP for City in the last two years. Will this happen to Silva, Kun, Dzeko after we buy some new plaers (and then, people are wondering why the players do not identify with a club, and just go after money, but this is another story)?

He is a fantastic player, and if he can play for the team, it will be fantastic to have him in our squad, no matter if in the XI or on the bench. But if he continues to play for his own, then I don't see a bright future for him in City.

Anyhow, we have to give him a chance to show what he can do when accompanied by Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko & Silva. And just then we can judge about him.

Looking at the comments about Dzeko last seson should teach every one not to make judgments too fast :)

 

[MCFC1993]

Lets be honest a full fit Tevez would walk into any team in the world right now, hes one of the top 3 strikers in the world. His goals single-handedly put us into the champions league last year when Dzeko was out of form. Anyone would be daft to say get rid, his family are over here now he sees our club progressing and he might actually want to work his way back into the side, give the guy another chance to show us he wants to do well for us. Of any player that's played for us over the last decade I think hes the only player whose off field antics (of which not liking Manchester and wanting to be with his family which arent that bad) can be forgiven for what hes done on the pitch.

 

[blue soon?]

For now its not a question of who would you drop but why would you drop with the team playing like they are. He'll get his starts with injuries, the busy schedule and possibly others losing form. Lets not forget what he's is capable of but lets also not forget if any rich enough club is struggling come January he'll probably be off, the only reason i'd choose mario over him.

 

[GStar]

You are playing better as a team because you have more players who contribute in attack this season than season before. If you consider Aguero as replacement to Tevez, you have signed Nasri and Dzeko is playing better this season. That is your improvement right there.

You have played just 3 games this season, don't be so sure that the season will go as good as it has done until now. There will definetly come some games where you will struggle to score against some teams, then you might realize the importance of Tevez in your last season.

I don't see what point you were making against mine?

Would you want City to go back to totally relying on Tevez until he leaves and then try and cope without him? I think that's an ignorant and short sighted view.

The longer term implications of keeping Tevez on the bench will serve as a great benchmark for the future, that if you don't want to be here, the cub will go forward without you and find someone who does.

 

[Daventryblue]

if i reply to this message with anything negative towards king carlos tevez will it be deleted

i am a bit miffed at two replies in regards to him that involved FACTS but were deleted by what seems like censorship and lack of being able to have free speech?

I am annoyed that you have to comply or not have a say.

I have only just started posting on here due to moving out of manc and still wanting to have man city chats with people but it seems opinions are not allowed?

 

[kalouk]

My opinion on Tevez changes daily but if we put to one side the off field stuff which I think most people agree is out of order then I wonder are we doing Tevez an injustice. Did he play the lone wolf role because we needed him to, we didn't have many other options if we are honest. His not passing to Dzeko may have been a case of him feeling Dzeko hadn't hit the ground running so he would carry on as usual. I don't know but maybe he now knows he doesn't have to do it all he will be more of a team player. I can't help but feel it is a little bit wrong to complain about his style of play now when for the last two seasons he has been everything we needed him to be. Maybe he can't change but surely he has earned the right on the pitch to at least give him the chance to shine as part of our team. He may go, he may stay but surely he is too good a player to dismiss, this will be a long season.

 

[Challenger1978]

Great post. The season if successful will consist of 60 games. Players will be injured, suffer dips in form and as happy as we are with the front players, its only three weeks into the season.

Tevez has done it for City for two years now, in all manner of games and occasions. Whether he is happy in Manchester is another issue but as the professional he is it has never affected his onfield performances.

Also to suggest he is selfish is ridiculous with the amount of tracking back and pressuring he performs, the unglamorous tasks which are solely to benefit the team. Hope he stays as he is a fantastic player.

One thing a lot of people are forgetting Tevez also offers us different tactical options. In some games we're going to want to attack and mullar teams in other games we're going to want to defend and just nick a goal. Depending on the situation depends on when we use Tevez.

He doesn't have to replace anyone, as you say frank there could be 60 games this year. Dzeko and Aguero literally are not going to be able to play all those games.

 

[franksinatra]

The team Tevez played on is different from the team we have now, let us see Tevez on this team first before we decide whether our team play is better or worse.

This.

Last year, Tevez made me mad, for ignoring Dzeko many times on the pitch. And many of us noticed his selfishness on the pitch and his behaviour off the pitch.

But even I, a hardcore Dzeko fan for years, cannot understand why people slag off a player who was the MVP for City in the last two years. Will this happen to Silva, Kun, Dzeko after we buy some new plaers (and then, people are wondering why the players do not identify with a club, and just go after money, but this is another story)?

He is a fantastic player, and if he can play for the team, it will be fantastic to have him in our squad, no matter if in the XI or on the bench. But if he continues to play for his own, then I don't see a bright future for him in City.

Anyhow, we have to give him a chance to show what he can do when accompanied by Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko & Silva. And just then we can judge about him.

Looking at the comments about Dzeko last seson should teach every one not to make judgments too fast :)

Whatever anyone thinks of Tevez to suggest he would purposely not pass to a collleague due to his own selfishness is in my eyes just ridiculous. Has it ever been considered he may have not seen the option or believed the opportunity for himself was greater? Even players like Cole and Sheringham who detested each other always put personal feelings aside to benefit the team.

Some very simple answers are posted here to many complex questions. Previously De Jong was all the all important member of the team and we couldnt win without him, now fans are suggesting wiothout him we are an irressistable attacking force. Same for Tevez, at times last season he was one of the top three strikers in the world, now after three good results and a transfer request he is selfish on the pitch and were a better side without him.

It amazes me how people base opinions on a couple of results, with the team in its current form tevez would also look fantastic in this team. We have a great squad and tevez is part of that.

P.s I havent even bothered to mention the comparison between how Dzeko and Tevez celebrate.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:50 pm --<br /><br />

Great post. The season if successful will consist of 60 games. Players will be injured, suffer dips in form and as happy as we are with the front players, its only three weeks into the season.

Tevez has done it for City for two years now, in all manner of games and occasions. Whether he is happy in Manchester is another issue but as the professional he is it has never affected his onfield performances.

Also to suggest he is selfish is ridiculous with the amount of tracking back and pressuring he performs, the unglamorous tasks which are solely to benefit the team. Hope he stays as he is a fantastic player.

One thing a lot of people are forgetting Tevez also offers us different tactical options. In some games we're going to want to attack and mullar teams in other games we're going to want to defend and just nick a goal. Depending on the situation depends on when we use Tevez.

He doesn't have to replace anyone, as you say frank there could be 60 games this year. Dzeko and Aguero literally are not going to be able to play all those games.

Exactly having the number of choices in the squad for all occasions hopefully will be our trump card as the season progresses. We witnessed with Dzeko and others how players can struggle in their first season in english football andpotentially it may happen to Aguero at some point due to fatigue, heavier pitches etc.

Having Tevez offers additional options, a proven focal point to the attack as without Dzeko we have as yet not witnessed Balo or Aguero do this on a consistent basis in England. Those saying F off to him, dont appreciate that with him we have a much greater chance of success.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

If we are going to play this 4-2-3-1 formation tevez is perfect for it because it requires the forwards defending from the front and tevez does that for full 90 minutes.

 

[TrueBlueSte]

world class player, last season he could have slapped mancini in the face and we would still have to play him to make our team tick, now though its all changed and we are a world class side with great players in it, he isnt needed anymroe so he dosent have the luxury of being able to do things his way now, time to see how much he wants to be the sucsessful.

 

[kara54]

The team Tevez played on is different from the team we have now, let us see Tevez on this team first before we decide whether our team play is better or worse.

This.

Last year, Tevez made me mad, for ignoring Dzeko many times on the pitch. And many of us noticed his selfishness on the pitch and his behaviour off the pitch.

But even I, a hardcore Dzeko fan for years, cannot understand why people slag off a player who was the MVP for City in the last two years. Will this happen to Silva, Kun, Dzeko after we buy some new plaers (and then, people are wondering why the players do not identify with a club, and just go after money, but this is another story)?

He is a fantastic player, and if he can play for the team, it will be fantastic to have him in our squad, no matter if in the XI or on the bench. But if he continues to play for his own, then I don't see a bright future for him in City.

Anyhow, we have to give him a chance to show what he can do when accompanied by Nasri, Aguero, Dzeko & Silva. And just then we can judge about him.

Looking at the comments about Dzeko last seson should teach every one not to make judgments too fast :)

Whatever anyone thinks of Tevez to suggest he would purposely not pass to a collleague due to his own selfishness is in my eyes just ridiculous. Has it ever been considered he may have not seen the option or believed the opportunity for himself was greater? Even players like Cole and Sheringham who detested each other always put personal feelings aside to benefit the team.

Some very simple answers are posted here to many complex questions. Previously De Jong was all the all important member of the team and we couldnt win without him, now fans are suggesting wiothout him we are an irressistable attacking force. Same for Tevez, at times last season he was one of the top three strikers in the world, now after three good results and a transfer request he is selfish on the pitch and were a better side without him.

It amazes me how people base opinions on a couple of results, with the team in its current form tevez would also look fantastic in this team. We have a great squad and tevez is part of that.

P.s I havent even bothered to mention the comparison between how Dzeko and Tevez celebrate.

I hope you got me right, just wanted to say, that even I (who loves Dzeko more than any other player since Van Basten and has observed some lack of understanding between Dzeko and Tevez) would never say that we're better without Tevez than with him.

Personal biased aside, fact is:
- Tevez is a world class player and he has done a lot for City. However his displays off the pitch are improvable at least.
- But the team is evolving ant Tevez' role within it is changed. He was the main man, but he is not anymore. Now it is a question if he can live with it and adapt his game accordingly or not.
- With Kun, Samir, Mario, David, Carlos and Edin there are 20 possibilities to make a 3-man, and 15 to make a 4-man attack. Definitely tough, but exquisite pleasure for RM :) So if the club can afford it, why let it slip away?

 

[BETTER-DEAD-THAN-RED]

With so much football to be played and injuries always around the corner, we will be very thankful Tevez stayed at some point I can assure you.

3 games into the season, everyone healthy, no Champions League yet, no Carling Cup yet, no FA Cup yet and every saying let's toss out the golden boot winner.

Well I think we do need him this season. Beyond that, I don't know. Hopefully Balotelli can really emerge.

this

all of it

 

[Bulldoglikeapproach]

I think his style of play is perfect for champs league away fixtures though.

 

[Daventryblue]

Carlos Tevez = Great Player and attitude on the field
Carlos Tevez = Rubbish attitude off the pitch *My personal opinion.

Its the footballer we need so yes I would like him around but the fact is he is not in the first team due to his own doing. He has no one to moan at but himself and its upto him to get back in the team, which at the moment looks hard for him as Edin is playing superbly, and CREDIT TO HIM FOR THAT.

The plus side for havin' Carlos is that no one else has him, cos he would be the main man at any many a European club. If we have him he can not cause us problems on the pitch.

Tevez does not deserve to be in the first team, I do not care what players do in the past its how they are at the present. As I said previously if you play people cos of what they have done for the club then Paul Dickov would still be upfront for us cos without him none of this money coming in might have happened ?

You can not guarantee a place judged on the past you have to earn it in the present and too be fair the current players are earning their places very well and making picking Tevez a hard thing to do.

 

[NICKS BACK]

Not as invaluable as last season maybe, but still a very good player and could be vital for us

Why the need to downgrade him? He just needs some fitness and games, and he could repeat what he did last season/

The "Fort Apache Ninja" is a prize cock 1st and foremost, He should be licking his lips
at the apocalyptic football he could play with these boys.

I am so pleased these boys have shut rival fans and the media up, who until the last fortnight were obsessed with how we would cope without Tevez.

Incredibly, mates of mine, seriously believed the wheels had fallen off. Alot of my mates are Tottenham and Arsenal boys. I have not said a word either or engaged in conversation with them about this weekend.

I would love to see him let loose with a front line of Balotelli Aguero Dzeko Silva Tevez,
it would take the piss against some weaker opposition. Fortunately we have Johnson instead.

Foe some of the older posters, as a kid I read incredulously when George Best did something similar at the same age. He was one of the best players in the world, too much is made of his decline. He would have come back if United had let him go somewhere else. I never felt ever that way Tevez, who BELIEVED he was irreplacable.

The difference was Best was playing with shit!!! Tevez does not know how lucky he is. F@%* him!!!

 

[_dreamer_]

He's a great player, but i can't see him being satisfied with his current situation. He definitely wants to start every game and if he doesn't get that, i think we'll see his lack of satisfaction very soon. I personally think that he has skills like no other Man City attacking player, but his mentality could have a bad influence to the team... If he could change, i would surely keep him. Otherwise, the best for all would be to sell him and to sign some youngster with potential.

 

[D.Villa]

aguero is twice the player he is and he's prettier, no brainer for me