Skashion
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avoidconfusion said:
Guilty as charged - of Clarkie bait, not being a rag. *spits*
Incidentally, just put a bet on Tevez to finish as top scorer in the league. 20:1, damn good odds I say.
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Tevez interview in the Mail
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Guilty as charged - of Clarkie bait, not being a rag. *spits*
Incidentally, just put a bet on Tevez to finish as top scorer in the league. 20:1, damn good odds I say.
Bill
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lets hope kiddo can tidy this mess up.
Rammy Blue
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de niro said:lets hope kiddo can tidy this mess up.
lol.
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"But, please, he is the coach and I am the player. He is in charge. I am OK with him."
That's all that really matters.
That's all that really matters.
JoeMercer'sWay
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I emailed the club for clarification over his comments.
I'm not happy with some of them but I guess his good form has given me unfound hope that he'd be as commited to the club as he seems to be on the pitch, but oh well, loyalty in football is rare nowadays.
I'm not happy with some of them but I guess his good form has given me unfound hope that he'd be as commited to the club as he seems to be on the pitch, but oh well, loyalty in football is rare nowadays.
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Skashion said:avoidconfusion said:Clarkie bait I think. :)
Guilty as charged - of Clarkie bait, not being a rag. *spits*
Incidentally, just put a bet on Tevez to finish as top scorer in the league. 20:1, damn good odds I say.
Apologies for the rag inference, wasn't sure so didn't go overboard on the name calling!
Skashion
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Rammy Blue said:Skashion said:Guilty as charged - of Clarkie bait, not being a rag. *spits*
Incidentally, just put a bet on Tevez to finish as top scorer in the league. 20:1, damn good odds I say.
Apologies for the rag inference, wasn't sure so didn't go overboard on the name calling!
There's always that risk when you go Clarkie baiting, so no apologies necessary.
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TheLegendOfBerti said:I emailed the club for clarification over his comments.
I'm not happy with some of them but I guess his good form has given me unfound hope that he'd be as commited to the club as he seems to be on the pitch, but oh well, loyalty in football is rare nowadays.
can you let us know what the response you get is please mate? cheers
johnny crossan
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ono
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As a City fan, leading up to the most important weeks of our recent history i wish he'd have kept quiet about certain things. But as a football fan and a fan of Tevez, it's refreshing to read such honesty. He comes across rather well.
Having said all of that, journo's ask a mixture of leading questions and closed questions which they can then re-shuffle to practically make any story, so much like all of the Robinho 'comments' it's best to take them with a pinch of salt as the answers are quite useless unless you know the questions in which they respond to.
Having said all of that, journo's ask a mixture of leading questions and closed questions which they can then re-shuffle to practically make any story, so much like all of the Robinho 'comments' it's best to take them with a pinch of salt as the answers are quite useless unless you know the questions in which they respond to.
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Who gives a fuck?
He can call us all the cunts under the sun as long as he puts 30+ in the onion bag this year
He can call us all the cunts under the sun as long as he puts 30+ in the onion bag this year
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We all need to get a bit more realistic on here. Forget about his comments about West Ham. I am sure their is a corner of Colin Bell's heart that is forever Bury. Forget about his comments on the Hughes dismissal. It only echo's what most of the fans thought on the situation at the time. Forget about the references regarding the Training regime. We have all read the Neil Mcnab threads and all they seem to do is walk around the Pitch and a bit of stretching - these Posts almost always finish with; - " and Bellamy, Tevez and Garrido stayed behind to practice free kicks".
We can even forget about the obvious misinterpretations from a Media with an Agenda against us. They have tried it before and will do so again and it hasn't hurt us yet.
The key to the Story and probably the key to Tevez were his comments about Bellamy. An abundance of Talent mixed in with a strong work ethic equals success. Thats a quality Tevez not only shares with our resident Welshman but also with our Manager who had a wonderful career as a player and has had much success so far as a Manager.
They will both be a part of our success's here. All in the very near future.
Finally; - I agree totally with D Teacher and all the others reference the wonderful post earlier in the thread from Bizzbo.
We can even forget about the obvious misinterpretations from a Media with an Agenda against us. They have tried it before and will do so again and it hasn't hurt us yet.
The key to the Story and probably the key to Tevez were his comments about Bellamy. An abundance of Talent mixed in with a strong work ethic equals success. Thats a quality Tevez not only shares with our resident Welshman but also with our Manager who had a wonderful career as a player and has had much success so far as a Manager.
They will both be a part of our success's here. All in the very near future.
Finally; - I agree totally with D Teacher and all the others reference the wonderful post earlier in the thread from Bizzbo.
Rammyblues
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Just ask yourself who are we playing at the weekend?
Who normally starts the mindgames?
For me watching the team last couple of games I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever that they are tired or at loggerheads with Berto.
In fact to the contrary they seem to be fitter, faster and enjoying themselves emmensly especially ade who had the biggest smile on his face all season.
Nothing like letting the rags know we are tires and that their is dissention in the ranks when in fact the opposite is true. Just another way of looking at it!!!!!
Who normally starts the mindgames?
For me watching the team last couple of games I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever that they are tired or at loggerheads with Berto.
In fact to the contrary they seem to be fitter, faster and enjoying themselves emmensly especially ade who had the biggest smile on his face all season.
Nothing like letting the rags know we are tires and that their is dissention in the ranks when in fact the opposite is true. Just another way of looking at it!!!!!
After a season of biased articles, I've got to the point where I read articles like these and find them relatively funny. Reporters are just out to get attention and most of all reader hits.
On occasion, when I do come across a positive story (and they do happen). I tend to refresh the page as many times as I can to indicate reader hit popularity. The more popular the story the more of this type will be written. Well that's the logic behind the method.
On occasion, when I do come across a positive story (and they do happen). I tend to refresh the page as many times as I can to indicate reader hit popularity. The more popular the story the more of this type will be written. Well that's the logic behind the method.
johnny crossan
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Now this is really worrying - the extremely unpleasant Daniel Taylor backing Mancini in the Guardian - strange
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/13/roberto-mancini-carlos-tevez-manchester-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... ester-city</a>
Roberto Mancini sticks to his guns despite Carlos Tevez's outburst
• No change to training regime despite Argentinian's comments
• City frustrated by perceived influence of Kia Joorabchian
Roberto Mancini is to stick by his training regime at Manchester City despite Carlos Tevez's claim that the players are "not happy" in an interview that has gone down badly not just with his manager but also with senior figures at boardroom level.
Mancini has steered City to fourth in the Premier League, with Tevez scoring 28 goals in the process, but the Argentinian striker openly undermined his manager in an interview in the Daily Mail today in which he expressed misgivings about the Italian's training schedule.
"The players are not happy," Tevez said. "We are at the end of a long season, we have big matches, we are tired but there are still double training sessions, morning and afternoon. Then, the next day, we train for two hours. I do not understand."
Tevez went on to say he was "OK" with Mancini but his comments are being viewed within the club as disruptive, unhelpful and poorly timed, to say the least, coming so soon before Saturday's game against Manchester United.
City had been keen for their leading scorer to keep a low profile this week and the club are deeply frustrated with their player, as well as being angry with therole that his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, is perceived to have played in an interview that also included Tevez questioning the wisdom of Mark Hughes's sacking.
Joorabchian has been representing Hughes for the last two months and his once-strong working relationship with City's chief executive, Garry Cook, has deteriorated to the point that sources at the club say the businessman is no longer even welcome in the players' lounge.
City's frustration with Tevez stems largely from the fact that they see him as too easily influenced and as a result he has enhanced his reputation as one of the more controversial players in the Premier League.
As well as saying the dismissal of Hughes was taken with "too much haste" and stating that the former Wales national manager "will get another big club 100%", Tevez questioned City's decision to put up the "Welcome to Manchester" billboard that led to Sir Alex Ferguson angrily criticising United's neighbours last summer as "a small club with a small mentality".
In previous interviews Tevez has spoken of having a framed copy at his house in Buenos Aires, but he now appears to believe it was unnecessarily provocative, saying: "I'd have preferred for it not to be there. I have respect for all the clubs I used to play for. That was not showing respect, was it?" Later he added: "I did not transfer from United to City for the controversy."
His questioning of Mancini is the most surprising aspect, however, given City's impressive results over the past few weeks, with 14 goals scored in the last three games, and the fact that Tevez himself is in the most prolific form of his career.
It is not clear whether Mancini has taken issue with the player personally, although he would be well within his rights. Elano Blumer's criticisms of Hughes in November 2008 led City to introduce a policy whereby the players received an internal memo telling them they were prohibited from giving unauthorised interviews. That rule is still meant to apply now. Elano was fined a week's wages but City will not discipline Tevez, taking the view there is little to be gained from upsetting their best player before such a crucial game.
Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved. Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved.
To give Tevez's complaints a different context, when he moved to City last summer a senior member of United's backroom staff described him to one of Hughes's coaches as the worst trainer at Old Trafford. That has not been the case at City, with club employees praising his commitment today, but there has historically been a feeling that Tevez saves himself in practice sessions.
When Mancini did a round of interviews with the local media today it was under the strict understanding, set out by the club, that he would not be asked about Tevez's remarks
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/13/roberto-mancini-carlos-tevez-manchester-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... ester-city</a>
Roberto Mancini sticks to his guns despite Carlos Tevez's outburst
• No change to training regime despite Argentinian's comments
• City frustrated by perceived influence of Kia Joorabchian
Roberto Mancini is to stick by his training regime at Manchester City despite Carlos Tevez's claim that the players are "not happy" in an interview that has gone down badly not just with his manager but also with senior figures at boardroom level.
Mancini has steered City to fourth in the Premier League, with Tevez scoring 28 goals in the process, but the Argentinian striker openly undermined his manager in an interview in the Daily Mail today in which he expressed misgivings about the Italian's training schedule.
"The players are not happy," Tevez said. "We are at the end of a long season, we have big matches, we are tired but there are still double training sessions, morning and afternoon. Then, the next day, we train for two hours. I do not understand."
Tevez went on to say he was "OK" with Mancini but his comments are being viewed within the club as disruptive, unhelpful and poorly timed, to say the least, coming so soon before Saturday's game against Manchester United.
City had been keen for their leading scorer to keep a low profile this week and the club are deeply frustrated with their player, as well as being angry with therole that his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, is perceived to have played in an interview that also included Tevez questioning the wisdom of Mark Hughes's sacking.
Joorabchian has been representing Hughes for the last two months and his once-strong working relationship with City's chief executive, Garry Cook, has deteriorated to the point that sources at the club say the businessman is no longer even welcome in the players' lounge.
City's frustration with Tevez stems largely from the fact that they see him as too easily influenced and as a result he has enhanced his reputation as one of the more controversial players in the Premier League.
As well as saying the dismissal of Hughes was taken with "too much haste" and stating that the former Wales national manager "will get another big club 100%", Tevez questioned City's decision to put up the "Welcome to Manchester" billboard that led to Sir Alex Ferguson angrily criticising United's neighbours last summer as "a small club with a small mentality".
In previous interviews Tevez has spoken of having a framed copy at his house in Buenos Aires, but he now appears to believe it was unnecessarily provocative, saying: "I'd have preferred for it not to be there. I have respect for all the clubs I used to play for. That was not showing respect, was it?" Later he added: "I did not transfer from United to City for the controversy."
His questioning of Mancini is the most surprising aspect, however, given City's impressive results over the past few weeks, with 14 goals scored in the last three games, and the fact that Tevez himself is in the most prolific form of his career.
It is not clear whether Mancini has taken issue with the player personally, although he would be well within his rights. Elano Blumer's criticisms of Hughes in November 2008 led City to introduce a policy whereby the players received an internal memo telling them they were prohibited from giving unauthorised interviews. That rule is still meant to apply now. Elano was fined a week's wages but City will not discipline Tevez, taking the view there is little to be gained from upsetting their best player before such a crucial game.
Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved. Mancini has no plans, however, to alter the training methods that have seen him introduce a more strategic approach, with a heavier influence on tactical and positional play, often with no ball involved.
To give Tevez's complaints a different context, when he moved to City last summer a senior member of United's backroom staff described him to one of Hughes's coaches as the worst trainer at Old Trafford. That has not been the case at City, with club employees praising his commitment today, but there has historically been a feeling that Tevez saves himself in practice sessions.
When Mancini did a round of interviews with the local media today it was under the strict understanding, set out by the club, that he would not be asked about Tevez's remarks
squirtyflower
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there's absolutely nothing new in that article from the Grauniad
regurgitating yesterday's old tat and putting it down in a different order
accusations made without quotes = bullshit
use it in the cat's litter tray
regurgitating yesterday's old tat and putting it down in a different order
accusations made without quotes = bullshit
use it in the cat's litter tray
johnny crossan
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squirtyflower said:there's absolutely nothing new in that article from the Grauniad
regurgitating yesterday's old tat and putting it down in a different order
accusations made without quotes = bullshit
use it in the cat's litter tray
The Kia representing Hughes bit was new to me
"City had been keen for their leading scorer to keep a low profile this week and the club are deeply frustrated with their player, as well as being angry with the role that his adviser, Kia Joorabchian, is perceived to have played in an interview that also included Tevez questioning the wisdom of Mark Hughes's sacking. Joorabchian has been representing Hughes for the last two months and his once-strong working relationship with City's chief executive, Garry Cook, has deteriorated to the point that sources at the club say the businessman is no longer even welcome in the players' lounge. City's frustration with Tevez stems largely from the fact that they see him as too easily influenced and as a result he has enhanced his reputation as one of the more controversial players in the Premier League."
squirtyflower said:there's absolutely nothing new in that article from the Grauniad
regurgitating yesterday's old tat and putting it down in a different order
accusations made without quotes = bullshit
use it in the cat's litter tray
There is something new to me and that is that Carlos's former owner is now Hughes's agent/advisor.
squirtyflower
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the thrust of the article is not about hughes/kia its about mancini/tevez, and just repeating what he copied yesterday from the mail
mancitypj
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I like this post!Rammyblues said:Just ask yourself who are we playing at the weekend?
Who normally starts the mindgames?
For me watching the team last couple of games I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever that they are tired or at loggerheads with Berto.
In fact to the contrary they seem to be fitter, faster and enjoying themselves emmensly especially ade who had the biggest smile on his face all season.
Nothing like letting the rags know we are tires and that their is dissention in the ranks when in fact the opposite is true. Just another way of looking at it!!!!!