Tevez, the return...

[Didsbury Dave]

Some serious shite being talked on here. Shit like Tevez doesn't suit our current 'system'. What system do we play? From what I can see its a fairly slow paced methodical tippy tappy mainly centralised 'system'.

Do people believe that had Tevez been available we wouldn't have played to his strengths? we play as we do at the moment due to him not being available.

He'll be a sub for Chelsea and Stoke and prob play a couple of other full(ish) reserve type games. After that, whether he starts 1st team games will depend on how he shapes himself. Once he's up and running Dzeko will have pure splinters in his arse.

One of the main reasons we started this season like a train, and why David Silva went up a gear, was the absence of Carlos. He has the same issue as Nasri, the same one Robinho had: he takes several touches and slows up your play on the break. Whilst he is obviously very effective at running at people and creating chances doing this, it inhibits City to have him doing this. He always ends up coming deep, looking for the ball. That means he becomes "the option", rather than Silva.

With Aguero in the side, when we are on our game, we play lightning fast pass and move. Think of the goals at Old Trafford, the ones at home to Bolton the other week, the winner at Highbury. Tevez takes that away. He gives you something else, of course, and I take the point that you could see him coming back motivated. But he brings problems too with a lack of fluency.

 

[Santiago Street]

I wasn't having a pop at you just the general anti dzeko sentiment amongst fans on here generally. I totally agree that technically Tevez is the better player and brings more overall to the team.

But Dzeko is that rare thing, a goalscorer pure and simple, a man who can stumble horribly through a game for 90 minutes but with one moment of instinct can steal the game.

For me he'd start every game

 

[Stoned Rose]

Some serious shite [/b]being talked on here. Shit like Tevez doesn't suit our current 'system'. What system do we play? From what I can see its a fairly slow paced methodical tippy tappy mainly centralised 'system'.

Do people believe that had Tevez been available we wouldn't have played to his strengths? we play as we do at the moment due to him not being available.

He'll be a sub for Chelsea and Stoke and prob play a couple of other full(ish) reserve type games. After that, whether he starts 1st team games will depend on how he shapes himself. Once he's up and running Dzeko will have pure splinters in his arse.

Yep Dzeko the "17 goal flop" with a better goals per minute ratio than any striker in the league

But not even in the top 3 City players on his (league) goals to shots ratio.

Not at all suprising that stat. I've always said he needs a lot of chances to score. Tevez doesn't.

 

[Santiago Street]

Surely a goals per minute ratio is far more telling than a goals per shots ratio

If he scores 1 goal every 30 minutes it's irrelevant if he's had 15 shots in that time

It's not like we concede many

 

[Stoned Rose]

Santiago mate I know your point was purely football not personal, no worries re that bud :)

However true it is that Dzeko can score a goal despite playing shit, for me we cant have "a man who can stumble horribly through a game for 90 minutes" playing for us in this current important run in. There is no margin for error, no time to carry passengers and definitely no room for stumbling horribly.

 

[OB1]

Surely a goals per minute ratio is far more telling than a goals per shots ratio

If he scores 1 goal every 30 minutes it's irrelevant if he's had 15 shots in that time

It's not like we concede many

Sorry but that's bollocks. Conversion ratio is far more important.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Surely a goals per minute ratio is far more telling than a goals per shots ratio

If he scores 1 goal every 30 minutes it's irrelevant if he's had 15 shots in that time

It's not like we concede many

Sorry but that's bollocks. Conversion ratio is far more important.

Correct. No doubt.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Surely a goals per minute ratio is far more telling than a goals per shots ratio

If he scores 1 goal every 30 minutes it's irrelevant if he's had 15 shots in that time

It's not like we concede many

well no because it mean if another player was playing instead we would have 10 goals instead of 1

 

[Santiago Street]

Some serious shite being talked on here. Shit like Tevez doesn't suit our current 'system'. What system do we play? From what I can see its a fairly slow paced methodical tippy tappy mainly centralised 'system'.

Do people believe that had Tevez been available we wouldn't have played to his strengths? we play as we do at the moment due to him not being available.

He'll be a sub for Chelsea and Stoke and prob play a couple of other full(ish) reserve type games. After that, whether he starts 1st team games will depend on how he shapes himself. Once he's up and running Dzeko will have pure splinters in his arse.

One of the main reasons we started this season like a train, and why David Silva went up a gear, was the absence of Carlos. He has the same issue as Nasri, the same one Robinho had: he takes several touches and slows up your play on the break. Whilst he is obviously very effective at running at people and creating chances doing this, it inhibits City to have him doing this. He always ends up coming deep, looking for the ball. That means he becomes "the option", rather than Silva.

With Aguero in the side, when we are on our game, we play lightning fast pass and move. Think of the goals at Old Trafford, the ones at home to Bolton the other week, the winner at Highbury. Tevez takes that away. He gives you something else, of course, and I take the point that you could see him coming back motivated. But he brings problems too with a lack of fluency.

When he virtually carried our attack on his own shoulders he would come deep for the ball but his vision and passing aren't good enough for him to excel at this. He should play up top where he can do most damage and he should be told that he can only drop off ten yards or so with the intention of collecting the ball, spinning his man and charging towards the box.

 

[OB1]

Surely a goals per minute ratio is far more telling than a goals per shots ratio

If he scores 1 goal every 30 minutes it's irrelevant if he's had 15 shots in that time

It's not like we concede many

Sorry but that's bollocks. Conversion ratio is far more important.

To be fair Dzeko's ratio is very similar to Mario, Kun and AJ's but being clinical is far more important than having lots of shots that fail. Indeed, as far as I am concerned, our failure to convert is one of our biggest issues at the moment.