Tevez to return (Merged)

Carlos Tevez's return to Manchester City could be damaging to dressing-room morale at the club, according to former goalkeeper Joe Corrigan.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17029572" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17029572</a>
a good read
 
Didsbury Dave said:
ban-mcfc said:
Dan1elle said:
It's just a fear, hopefull ungrounded.

understandable, but we have a lot of smart people at the club.

don't worry, we'll be fine.

Trust?!?!? PMSL

The whole shebang has been appalling mismanaged from start to finish. We might be loaded, but we still shoot ourselves in the foot. Only one way out of this now, a fudged reunion. I've just submitted a blog on it.

ok then, i'll meet you for the porto game and we can start a "mancini out" protest. sounds like a good idea to me.
 
TRANSCRIPT of 4 parts of the interview I found online, these are made by me, so try to cope a bit if it wasn’t 100% precise. Also, this is not the full interview (couldn't find it), but big chunks of it:

Part 1: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEEan2QIDU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEEan2QIDU</a>
Niembro: Carlos, going back. What exactly happened so that people understand, because you said that you never refused to play, so what happened?

Tévez: What I refused was to keep warming up. Because I already had warmed up during the first half. We were losing 0-2 with Bayern, and around 35’-40’ Mancini tells me to warm up, and I go to warm up along with de Jong. And up to 45’, when the first half is over I remained warming up.

We go for the half time, and the coach gives his usual speech. And when we go out on the second half, the manager again has me warming up. I do go to warm up again, sort of pissed now because on previous matches I’ve warmed up and ended up not going into the match, and the coach saying that I wasn’t right physically, and I said I was. He had removed the captaincy from me without even explaining or talking to me. And there was a lot going on, and I was pissed and not alright with all these.

So when he sends in de Jong for Džecko, we were losing 0-2, it was a defensive change so I just went to sit on the bench, I mean if he was going to defend in order to prevent losing by 4 goals instead of trying to even the score...

When Džecko comes, he was very pissed, wanting to go directly to the dressing room, and insulting him (Mancini). And when Džecko wants to go into the tunnel, but realizes it’s closed, he goes to the bench, arguing with Mancini. Džecko insulting Mancini in Bosnian, and Mancini insulting in Italian, it was a mess.

In that mess, Mancini didn’t realize I went back to the bench. When he does realize I was sitting on the bench, him being too pissed by the recent argument, he sends me to continue warming up like a dog. Of course, when he spoke to me ill-mannered and told me to go warm up, I said no, that I wasn’t going to keep warming up, that I was ready to go into the match. If he wanted me to play, I was ready to play and would have played. But since he was mad and nervous, after the argument with Dzecko, he started to insult me. I was chilling in the bank, and you can see in the images sitting in the bench, talking with Zabaleta, I didn’t really answer him back. He did say some outrageous things to me.

Niembro: Now after that, there is a press conference (from Mancini) and the club begins an investigation. There it was, his position, and the club gives you your chance to defend yours.

Tévez: Right, the club had to make the investigation. So they made everyone on the bench testify.

Niembro: Even the doctor, right?

Tévez: Everyone on the bench there had to testify. Everyone made their statement, even Mancini and me, and the (investigation) result said that I never refused to play, but did refused to keep warming up. The club decided, because of that refusal, to fine me with 3 weeks of my contract (salary). Well, after the Player’s Union interfere, claiming it was too much, it was decided to make it 2 weeks instead.

Then there was the problem on how I was going to go back to the club. Because the coach went on saying I was never going to play with him there again.

Niembro: Yes, this also was a problem to him because he had been contradicted by the everyone's statements during the investigation.

Tévez: Yeah, but that was inside the club. That wasn’t public. And that’s the reason why I get mad with the club and leave back to Argentina.

Niembro: And this is why many people understood something different. Now that we are making things clear, there was an investigation, and that what you refused was to continue to warm up. This should make things clear to the public of Manchester.

Tévez: Yeah, but that is also not the way I said it. I didn’t say “I’m not going to warm up anymore”, I said “That’s enough, I’m ready to play, put me now”. I was ready. I had been warming up during the first half and early of the second half. You can see that on the videos. If I didn’t want to play, I wouldn’t have warmed up from the beginning. My anger was because the coach treats me in a way no player deserves to be treated ever. He was likely mad at other players.

Niembro: He was mad for the argument with the other player and…

Tevez: and I received the insult.

Second Part: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vtt4nqbwAc&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vtt4nqb ... re=related</a>

Niembro: Now during this time you received plenty of offers from other clubs, from Italy for instance, was it true about Milan?

Tévez: Yes it’s true.

Niembro: Was it true about Inter?

Tévez: Yes, part of it was.

Niembro: And from Paris St. Germain?

Tévez: True as well.

Niembro: So the club was willing to negotiate you?

Tévez:Yeah, but the club doesn’t want to have loses.

Niembro: Well, I think that’s logical, someone who invests on a player will want to recover part of his investments. But I mean, just like you weren’t there because you wanted to play somewhere else, the club was also decided to sell you. You were here (Buenos Aires), but they were negotiating.

Tévez: Yeah, but they didn’t benefit from me being in Buenos Aires, “not training“ or “not doing anything”, or with the deception that I was going to retire. (alluding all these claims by the press were false).

Niembro: But was it true that you weren’t training?

Tévez: Of course I train. One thing is training alone, another was training with a team and a trainer.

Niembro: I mean someone who sees you, sees a man who is in activity.

Tévez: Yes, I’m fine, I’m in shape.

Niembro: So if you arrive to Manchester, like you will in a couple of hours, you are going to need a couple of weeks to get ready, but if Mancini decides to put you in, you’d be ready in about 2 weeks.

Tévez: I think in 2 weeks I’d be ready to play.

Niembro: Do you want to?

Tévez: Yes I do want to.

Niembro: I think the other day, on Boca’s stadium, you wanted to play.

Tévez: Yeah, but it would’ve been yet another issue (with Manchester City).

Niembro: So you were careful with that?

Tévez: I have to be careful with a lot of things, because else every two days you have a registered letter arriving home. It did hurt, imagine entering a stadium, not being able to play, and it brought me a lot of nice memories, seeing again to *starts naming Boca’s veteran players*, all those players that when I was in youth team saw this monsters play and seeing them now, it was very emotive.

Niembro: And also the appreciation of the people, because all the fans applauded you and Palermo walked by you.

Tévez: Yeah, and besides all that, Martín (Palermo) was awesome, in every moment wanted me to be there and cared for me.

Niembro: Now you were important for the National team, especially on the last world cup, where you were considered the “Player of the people”, but Boca fans will remember you forever. I mean, the day you find yourself, and I don’t think you will, without a job, Boca will always give you an opportunity.

Tévez: Yeah, for free...

Niembro: You are telling Boca’s directives you’d play for free?

Tévez: No, their directives want me to play for free (in reference of Boca president Angelici comments).

Niembro: But that’s impossible, right?

Tévez: I don’t know, maybe someday we’ll see.

Part 3: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rKTaB098zI&context=C3db269aADOEgsToPDskJt6eAZzLA6vp1vBARukcso" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rKTaB09 ... 1vBARukcso</a>
Niembro: So you say this could’ve been avoided? (About the whole Mancini-Tévez-Manchester City affair)

Tévez: Yeah, it could have been avoided.

Niembro: With a press conference less…

Tévez: No, without declaring to the press at all. The coach could’ve simply told me “you are not going to play no more”, and that was it. And people wouldn’t know why, but that would’ve been it. He could’ve continue saying “no, Carlitos is not prepared physically and not allright” like he’d been doing for the rest of the season, and not putting me into the team, dealing with the situation differently.

I mean, there is always a fight. Everywhere, in every dressing room of each team around the world. Sometimes it becomes magnified (by the press) and sometimes not, and I think the coach made a mistake there. Because if there was a problem between us, we would always fix it inside, between us. Always. We had our ways. One day, last year during half time against Newcastle, we almost went fist-fighting each other and they even had to separate us.

But we talked the next day and everything went on normally. It stayed there. We didn’t have a bad relation. We could be fighting, or we could be having a coffee and laughing.

Niembro: I suppose it was part of the everyday work and tensions.

Tévez: I think… I think he is a winner. He doesn’t like losing. And I’m a winner as well.

Niembro: You arrived to West Ham, then Manchester United, and then City. When you arrived to England, how was it different? Was it difficult at first? Was it easy and got complicated? How is playing on English football?

Tévez: It was hard, because they pushed me and threw me away easily. They just put the hand on me and I was on the ground. And (the referees) don’t called fouls ever. That forced me to train every night at the gym. At first it was very difficult, I remember calling Adrián (Rouco) to tell him “get me out of here”. And I came from Brazil, where I was only two hours away from my family. And with the English language, it was even tougher; to me it was like Chinese. I wasn’t happy at first. But with the help of my wife, and my kids, I got used to it.

Niembro: But are there bad intentions in English footballers?

Tévez: No, they just play rough. If you are not well built up, you’ll fall. But it’s not bad; it’s a very beautiful football. To me it’s the best. I like playing the English football, the only issue being Christmas and New Year’s Eve.

Niembro: Those dates you want to be back in Argentina?

Tévez: Yeah, those dates kill me. There you have to play and train. I finally got to have a holiday with my family this after so long.

Niembro: Well, yeah to us, having the catholic tradition, we are used to gathering together with the family.

Tévez: Yeah, but we even had to concentrate during a New Year’s Eve. I had to train, congratulates everyone “happy new year”, have 2 pills and go to sleep.
Going back a 25th to train, and play a 26th, sometimes a 25th. It’s tough.

Part 4: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5lOkrQ8PLM&feature=related" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5lOkrQ8 ... re=related</a>
(about returning)
Tévez: You have to grab confidence on yourself.

Niembro: Once you score, it’s easy.

Tévez: yeah but that first goal can take a while.

Niembro: Yeah, but you also have to have another objective: The national team. I mean, Sabella said “How can I not consider Tévez?” but you have to be playing for that.

Tévez: Yeah, it’s very clear that. I suffered a lot with the National Team, I thought I was out of the America’s Cup. I didn’t get ready for the America’s Cup like I did for the World Cup.

Niembro: But why didn’t you?

Tévez: Because I thought I wouldn’t be there. And I accepted it, even though It was painful. But when I returned to Argentina, everyone were very supportive, claiming that I should be there.

Niembro: There was a match of the National team, in Chaco, you weren’t there. And the people were claiming for you instead of the players there. It’s like there is recognition to you, and not just from the people of Boca.

Tévez: Yeah, it was amazing. The (Argentinean) people were always supportive to me, always. And I don’t have words to thank them. And I want to keep playing because I have hunger for glory. I think the people were fundamental in all this. But when I arrive in Buenos Aires, multiply that for… I don’t know how much. And people came to me, saying “Checho this and Checho that” (Checho Batista was then the Argentinean Coach), insulting the coach because I had to be there I wasn’t.

And that made me want to be there. Be there under any circumstance.
Niembro: Why can’t we play correctly? Why having all these players, we can’t s have proper team?

Tévez: I think we need to build our team starting with the goalkeeper. We build our team with the forwards, with Messi, Higuaín, Tévez or Agüero and then the rest backwards. And I think you have to build the team from the goalkeeper forward. I think that if the team defends correctly, it will attack correctly. Anyone who makes a defensive stand against us ends up winning the match, or at least with the score even.

Niembro: So we trust too much on the offensive quality we have, and not in the other aspects?

Tévez: I think we need to build from the back first. We argue if we should play with 3 or 4 strikers, and if we can scramble Messi, Kun (Agüero), all of us together. And we forget that we have to defend on the back.

Niembro: Do you think that if we build properly build a team, we can be candidates to win the cup in Brazil?

Tévez: With the quality of our players we must always be candidates. You start naming the players all in Europe, and yet you wonder why we can’t win together.

Niembro: Do you play with Messi by memory? (typical argentina expression when two players play together with great coordination, as if they know each other by memory).

Tévez:Well with Messi… it’s just easy to play with Messi. He may not have the ball and takes 3 defenders off with him. He is the biggest of them all.
 
IMO...I think its all for show - All sides are playing the game for their own gain.

Its in City's interest to show we are willing to take him back, so we do not fall foul off any contractural get out. It will be Mancini's decision to play him, however I don't Tevez will be fit enough to be considered. Would you jepordise a league title for that snidey little runt?

Tevez and his advisor (Kia) and his advisor's advisor (McCarthy) are all trying to do what they have to do to get paid.

However the only thing that will back fire is Tevez as he is blatently thick as pig shit and can't keep his mouth shut or his stories straight.

Hopefully we don't suffer in the long term..
 
Skashion said:
The Cabal has spoken. Mancini is to blame. Tevez is great. Players hate Mancini. Just like the good old days.


hang on...dont speak on the cabals behalf...we're,sorry they are in a holding pattern awaiting further info.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
strongbowholic said:
If some players don't like the manager - in spite of the results he is achieving - then they can all go and try and find another club where they get paid as well, and can be as successful at, as they will be at City.
They won't find another club like that though will they? That's why they stay at City. They might not adore Mancini but they're well paid and are likely to win things. Therefore they'll tolerate it.
Which is kind of my point. If others are supplying the ammo and Tevez is the one firing the gun, get them all out of the club.

If they are happy to be paid well and win things they will shut the **** up, get on with it and don't rock the boat.
 
welsh_andy said:
Carlos Tevez's return to Manchester City could be damaging to dressing-room morale at the club, according to former goalkeeper Joe Corrigan.

my hero

I don't doubt what Lescott says, that all the players excited to have tevez and toures back - and why not? they'll certainly feel better equipped in the dressing room to land the title. Generally the players don't give a stuff about off field stuff they just want to give themselves best chance of winning trophies and tevez was their captain and talisman only last season - they won't just forget that.

Plus - you poll the united players and ask if they wanted tevez to come back and play for us? You know what the answer would be.
 
Good thing or not, will he play or not, I would love to have been privy to some of the politicking that must have gone on in order to make his return happen. Thats the really interesting stuff as far as I am concerned.
 

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