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Tevez transfer thread
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sorry in advance, not been on in a while and haven't read all the 100 odd pages, but I'm reading in a few places that Tevez is returning to Manchester next week to "re-integrate" back into the team .... ? WTF
Might be good to see another class striker working with us but with everything thats happened, doesn't it seem like a bad idea or futile if this is true?
Might be good to see another class striker working with us but with everything thats happened, doesn't it seem like a bad idea or futile if this is true?
The Fat el Hombre
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Fucks sake I know I had a lot to drink yesterday but Jesus fucking Christ. Even the fucking guys who run that club are deluded. Tevez for fucking Carroll. Andy Carroll for Carlos tevez? Eh? I say we go for it and offer barca Wayne bridge for lionel messi
bluevengence
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Kia fail
Good read from Daniel Taylor in yesterdays Guardian....looks like no ones falling for the snakes bullshit
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/28/carlos-tevez-manchester-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... ester-city</a>
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 28 January 2012
Maybe one day Carlos Tevez will be able to offer a semi‑plausible explanation about why he has come to think of Manchester City as some kind of five-star prison. But, until that time, he will have to forgive the rest of us for wondering whether anyone has ever sat him down and told him how it works in the real world.
The answer, almost certainly, is that nobody has, judging by the latest startling remarks from Kia Joorabchian and the unshakable sense that not only do both men exist by the rules of a different universe but that there might be peace in Palestine before either one confesses to being responsible for their actions.
Joorabchian was explaining how Tevez will have to return to Manchester and his mansion on millionaire's row now that the club he abandoned 11 weeks ago have had the temerity to seek £25m from Milan for a player who was on the market for almost twice that amount last summer.
Roberto Mancini, he said, had brought us to this point where the manager and captain of last season's FA Cup winners can barely tolerate sharing the same oxygen. Tevez would not offer an apology, because one was not due – "It would be like a fake 'I'm sorry'" – and then Joorabchian returned to shovelling the blame in the direction of the man who has given City authentic aspirations of their first championship since the late 60s.
"The relationship with Mancini, ever since Mancini came to the club, has not been good," he said. "You think about last Christmas, when Carlos wanted to leave, and it was all about feuds with the manager, and it went on and on."
What Joorabchian really ought to have done was check the cuttings to make sure his story had even a grain of consistency. The statement Tevez HQ released at the time did, after all, stress that nobody should question his relationship with the manager: "I wish to clarify that I have no personal issue with the manager Roberto Mancini." The truth, it seems, is something completely different, and the plot thickens even more given that Tevez and Joorabchian have already revised their story once before, settling on the narrative of someone who needed to leave Manchester purely because he could not bear being separated from his loved ones in Buenos Aires. City were sceptical about that one, too.
Whatever happens, Tevez's behaviour has been atrocious and it is reassuring to learn that City's disciplinary system has been quietly whirring away behind the scenes and that his serial offending has cost him in the region of £9.3m in fines, unpaid wages and lost bonuses.
These are substantial amounts even for a man who, one suspects, hasn't been chewing on your average cut of steak since decamping to Buenos Aires on 7 November. But the most staggering part is not that City have found him guilty of gross misconduct or withheld that colossal salary but that Tevez has actually had the gall to appeal. In one sense, it fits neatly into everything we know about how he works. In another, it makes you wonder whether anyone has ever actually explained to him what happens, outside the football bubble, when employees of big companies disappear for almost three months. They get sacked and their belongings usually follow in a crate.
If it is genuinely the case that Tevez intends to halt his strike, it can only be hoped City's owners keep to their word and condemn him to a gulag of indifference unless that moment arrives when all that male pride and ego subsides just far enough for a few words of contrition. Goodness knows, Mancini has given him enough opportunity, inviting him to his house one night, pouring the coffee and presenting the opportunity for a clean slate, only for Tevez to take the olive branch and snap it in two. Tevez scarpered to Argentina shortly afterwards and, for the Abu Dhabi‑based owners, this is their opportunity to demonstrate that the modern-day City will not be pushed around or patronised by anyone.
Tevez one day may realise that this is what can happen when a skewed sense of self-importance and a blurred truth all come together but, first, there is a question he has to consider. It is whether he intends to do anything to re-establish himself at a club where most supporters, quite frankly, would rather he were airbrushed from the team photograph, or whether he continues to brood in the background, playing the victim and making up the story as he lurches from one bad decision to the next.
Almost certainly, there will be nothing positive beyond getting on the plane and this is where it is such an exasperating story. Tevez has a right to be considered the most formidable striker ever to wear City's colours. Not as good as he thinks, perhaps, but still a player of great drive and penetrative qualities. Instead he will be returning to a club where he is held in contempt and it is a familiar sense of deja vu given that his former Manchester United team‑mates remember a player who "started to toss it off in training" and the Old Trafford administrators shudder when they recall the state of his house once his lease agreement expired. The reports make it sound as if the front room had been sublet to Vyvyan from The Young Ones. In total, there was £30,000 worth of damage to the carpets and furniture.
Tevez is now threatening to make a similar mess of his career, precisely at the point when he should be playing the best football of his professional life. But, as always, it is someone else's fault.
Good read from Daniel Taylor in yesterdays Guardian....looks like no ones falling for the snakes bullshit
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/28/carlos-tevez-manchester-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... ester-city</a>
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 28 January 2012
Maybe one day Carlos Tevez will be able to offer a semi‑plausible explanation about why he has come to think of Manchester City as some kind of five-star prison. But, until that time, he will have to forgive the rest of us for wondering whether anyone has ever sat him down and told him how it works in the real world.
The answer, almost certainly, is that nobody has, judging by the latest startling remarks from Kia Joorabchian and the unshakable sense that not only do both men exist by the rules of a different universe but that there might be peace in Palestine before either one confesses to being responsible for their actions.
Joorabchian was explaining how Tevez will have to return to Manchester and his mansion on millionaire's row now that the club he abandoned 11 weeks ago have had the temerity to seek £25m from Milan for a player who was on the market for almost twice that amount last summer.
Roberto Mancini, he said, had brought us to this point where the manager and captain of last season's FA Cup winners can barely tolerate sharing the same oxygen. Tevez would not offer an apology, because one was not due – "It would be like a fake 'I'm sorry'" – and then Joorabchian returned to shovelling the blame in the direction of the man who has given City authentic aspirations of their first championship since the late 60s.
"The relationship with Mancini, ever since Mancini came to the club, has not been good," he said. "You think about last Christmas, when Carlos wanted to leave, and it was all about feuds with the manager, and it went on and on."
What Joorabchian really ought to have done was check the cuttings to make sure his story had even a grain of consistency. The statement Tevez HQ released at the time did, after all, stress that nobody should question his relationship with the manager: "I wish to clarify that I have no personal issue with the manager Roberto Mancini." The truth, it seems, is something completely different, and the plot thickens even more given that Tevez and Joorabchian have already revised their story once before, settling on the narrative of someone who needed to leave Manchester purely because he could not bear being separated from his loved ones in Buenos Aires. City were sceptical about that one, too.
Whatever happens, Tevez's behaviour has been atrocious and it is reassuring to learn that City's disciplinary system has been quietly whirring away behind the scenes and that his serial offending has cost him in the region of £9.3m in fines, unpaid wages and lost bonuses.
These are substantial amounts even for a man who, one suspects, hasn't been chewing on your average cut of steak since decamping to Buenos Aires on 7 November. But the most staggering part is not that City have found him guilty of gross misconduct or withheld that colossal salary but that Tevez has actually had the gall to appeal. In one sense, it fits neatly into everything we know about how he works. In another, it makes you wonder whether anyone has ever actually explained to him what happens, outside the football bubble, when employees of big companies disappear for almost three months. They get sacked and their belongings usually follow in a crate.
If it is genuinely the case that Tevez intends to halt his strike, it can only be hoped City's owners keep to their word and condemn him to a gulag of indifference unless that moment arrives when all that male pride and ego subsides just far enough for a few words of contrition. Goodness knows, Mancini has given him enough opportunity, inviting him to his house one night, pouring the coffee and presenting the opportunity for a clean slate, only for Tevez to take the olive branch and snap it in two. Tevez scarpered to Argentina shortly afterwards and, for the Abu Dhabi‑based owners, this is their opportunity to demonstrate that the modern-day City will not be pushed around or patronised by anyone.
Tevez one day may realise that this is what can happen when a skewed sense of self-importance and a blurred truth all come together but, first, there is a question he has to consider. It is whether he intends to do anything to re-establish himself at a club where most supporters, quite frankly, would rather he were airbrushed from the team photograph, or whether he continues to brood in the background, playing the victim and making up the story as he lurches from one bad decision to the next.
Almost certainly, there will be nothing positive beyond getting on the plane and this is where it is such an exasperating story. Tevez has a right to be considered the most formidable striker ever to wear City's colours. Not as good as he thinks, perhaps, but still a player of great drive and penetrative qualities. Instead he will be returning to a club where he is held in contempt and it is a familiar sense of deja vu given that his former Manchester United team‑mates remember a player who "started to toss it off in training" and the Old Trafford administrators shudder when they recall the state of his house once his lease agreement expired. The reports make it sound as if the front room had been sublet to Vyvyan from The Young Ones. In total, there was £30,000 worth of damage to the carpets and furniture.
Tevez is now threatening to make a similar mess of his career, precisely at the point when he should be playing the best football of his professional life. But, as always, it is someone else's fault.
jaigurugoat said:I would take torres for tevez, would suit both parties and I think Torres will get his form back, would rather have a striker who plays than one who doesn't.
Just wrong, every word of it.........................please come back to me if you need it explaining.
sam-caddick
Well-Known Member
I think we should just accept that by March Carlos will be playing his first match of the year for us.
sam-caddick said:I think we should just accept that by March Carlos will be playing his first match of the year for us.
It's difficult to see happening i think. I thought he clearly hates Manchester and MCFC. Tevez going out and putting 110% in overdrive like Silva, Aguero, Kompany, Micah and all the team do every game and scoring goals this season ...??? I think we have a better chance of signing Messi and Ronaldo!
Re: Kia fail
Very good that!
bluevengence said:Good read from Daniel Taylor in yesterdays Guardian....looks like no ones falling for the snakes bullshit
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/jan/28/carlos-tevez-manchester-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... ester-city</a>
Daniel Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 28 January 2012
Maybe one day Carlos Tevez will be able to offer a semi‑plausible explanation about why he has come to think of Manchester City as some kind of five-star prison. But, until that time, he will have to forgive the rest of us for wondering whether anyone has ever sat him down and told him how it works in the real world.
The answer, almost certainly, is that nobody has, judging by the latest startling remarks from Kia Joorabchian and the unshakable sense that not only do both men exist by the rules of a different universe but that there might be peace in Palestine before either one confesses to being responsible for their actions.
Joorabchian was explaining how Tevez will have to return to Manchester and his mansion on millionaire's row now that the club he abandoned 11 weeks ago have had the temerity to seek £25m from Milan for a player who was on the market for almost twice that amount last summer.
Roberto Mancini, he said, had brought us to this point where the manager and captain of last season's FA Cup winners can barely tolerate sharing the same oxygen. Tevez would not offer an apology, because one was not due – "It would be like a fake 'I'm sorry'" – and then Joorabchian returned to shovelling the blame in the direction of the man who has given City authentic aspirations of their first championship since the late 60s.
"The relationship with Mancini, ever since Mancini came to the club, has not been good," he said. "You think about last Christmas, when Carlos wanted to leave, and it was all about feuds with the manager, and it went on and on."
What Joorabchian really ought to have done was check the cuttings to make sure his story had even a grain of consistency. The statement Tevez HQ released at the time did, after all, stress that nobody should question his relationship with the manager: "I wish to clarify that I have no personal issue with the manager Roberto Mancini." The truth, it seems, is something completely different, and the plot thickens even more given that Tevez and Joorabchian have already revised their story once before, settling on the narrative of someone who needed to leave Manchester purely because he could not bear being separated from his loved ones in Buenos Aires. City were sceptical about that one, too.
Whatever happens, Tevez's behaviour has been atrocious and it is reassuring to learn that City's disciplinary system has been quietly whirring away behind the scenes and that his serial offending has cost him in the region of £9.3m in fines, unpaid wages and lost bonuses.
These are substantial amounts even for a man who, one suspects, hasn't been chewing on your average cut of steak since decamping to Buenos Aires on 7 November. But the most staggering part is not that City have found him guilty of gross misconduct or withheld that colossal salary but that Tevez has actually had the gall to appeal. In one sense, it fits neatly into everything we know about how he works. In another, it makes you wonder whether anyone has ever actually explained to him what happens, outside the football bubble, when employees of big companies disappear for almost three months. They get sacked and their belongings usually follow in a crate.
If it is genuinely the case that Tevez intends to halt his strike, it can only be hoped City's owners keep to their word and condemn him to a gulag of indifference unless that moment arrives when all that male pride and ego subsides just far enough for a few words of contrition. Goodness knows, Mancini has given him enough opportunity, inviting him to his house one night, pouring the coffee and presenting the opportunity for a clean slate, only for Tevez to take the olive branch and snap it in two. Tevez scarpered to Argentina shortly afterwards and, for the Abu Dhabi‑based owners, this is their opportunity to demonstrate that the modern-day City will not be pushed around or patronised by anyone.
Tevez one day may realise that this is what can happen when a skewed sense of self-importance and a blurred truth all come together but, first, there is a question he has to consider. It is whether he intends to do anything to re-establish himself at a club where most supporters, quite frankly, would rather he were airbrushed from the team photograph, or whether he continues to brood in the background, playing the victim and making up the story as he lurches from one bad decision to the next.
Almost certainly, there will be nothing positive beyond getting on the plane and this is where it is such an exasperating story. Tevez has a right to be considered the most formidable striker ever to wear City's colours. Not as good as he thinks, perhaps, but still a player of great drive and penetrative qualities. Instead he will be returning to a club where he is held in contempt and it is a familiar sense of deja vu given that his former Manchester United team‑mates remember a player who "started to toss it off in training" and the Old Trafford administrators shudder when they recall the state of his house once his lease agreement expired. The reports make it sound as if the front room had been sublet to Vyvyan from The Young Ones. In total, there was £30,000 worth of damage to the carpets and furniture.
Tevez is now threatening to make a similar mess of his career, precisely at the point when he should be playing the best football of his professional life. But, as always, it is someone else's fault.
Very good that!
Dont want this freak to railroad our push for the title, however if he does return to the squad Mancini should have him on the bench and every 10 minutes ask him to warm up and never bring him on, do it for 3 or 4 games and if he follows instructions bring him on in injury time in next game.
If he ever does make a substitute appearance either in march or April bobby would have to be very astute in the timing and the score and he would have to be very selective in which opposition we are playing, nothing surprises me with city that's why I love them so much, it would be one of those moments in a game where you would say years from now I was there. A bit like York or adebayors celebration.