Thanks Pep for calling out the ref (and Liverpool fans)

[Tim of the Oak]

Chappy is a top bloke, the players loved him but it wasn't just him who Mancini rattled

Was it Chappy’s Missus??

I think it was Chappy’s deputy they got upset wasn’t it?

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Just changing tack a little I was heartened to hear Pep saying how much he loved the PL. Hopefully that means he'll want to extend his stay here when his contract is up for renewal - for at least another 5 years!

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I’m sure he’s a lovely bloke but ‘Chappy’ seemed like a proper irritating bastard when he used to do stuff for City TV. Based on that I’m not surprised Mancini treated him like shit, he’d do my head in after 30 seconds as well.

he blocks you if you have a different opinion to him

bless chappy

 

[Henri Regnault]

Just the ref. Var doesn’t get a say in such decisions.

Not a question to you, but seriously why have VAR if it isn't plugged into all "big" decisions? Everyone over the age of 3 knew that was a game-changing decision.

Why the hell is VAR "unable" to interfere like it's a court without jurisdiction? It's a guy in a booth with a coffee and he's watching the game anyway - why not ask him to look at it?

 

[bluenova]

Not a question to you, but seriously why have VAR if it isn't plugged into all "big" decisions? Everyone over the age of 3 knew that was a game-changing decision.

Why the hell is VAR "unable" to interfere like it's a court without jurisdiction? It's a guy in a booth with a coffee and he's watching the game anyway - why not ask him to look at it?

It's because they have to draw the line somewhere.

To look at the Bernardo/Milner tackle means looking at every single foul/potential foul by a player already on a yellow and deciding if it's worth another yellow.

If you think about most matches, then it's maybe 1-2 penalty decisions, and a red card decision every few matches.

Given that the standard for giving a yellow is much lower than a red, then checking all potential second yellows would be MANY times that number of VAR decisions.

 

[Henri Regnault]

Given that the standard for giving a yellow is much lower than a red, then checking all potential second yellows would be MANY times that number of VAR decisions.

Why not check every "big" decision though, giving subjective authority to the VAR official to make that call? Would think any bone-rattling second-yellow challenge would make that cut. Would expect bizarre no-calls in good freekick positions to get checked as well.

The VAR official could still fuck it off if he wanted to, but I don't like that he has to sit on his hands because of a fluke in the rules.

 

[DTKOAG]

Will be looking at Tierney being stepped from for the next Premiership matches and being sent to Newport as punishment for his big errors yesterday.
Unable to handle the big match atmosphere yesterday.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Just changing tack a little I was heartened to hear Pep saying how much he loved the PL. Hopefully that means he'll want to extend his stay here when his contract is up for renewal - for at least another 5 years!

These injustices are much more likely to keep him here id say and keep him fired up!

 

[johnnytapia]

he blocks you if you have a different opinion to him

bless chappy

Chappy or Mancini? One destined to be sitting with the footballing gods when his time on this mortal coil is complete. The other going to the great big launderette in the sky.

 

[bluenova]

Why not check every "big" decision though, giving subjective authority to the VAR official to make that call? Would think any bone-rattling second-yellow challenge would make that cut. Would expect bizarre no-calls in good freekick positions to get checked as well.

The VAR official could still fuck it off if he wanted to, but I don't like that he has to sit on his hands because of a fluke in the rules.

The problem is that the rules for yellows are so much broader than red, and it's clearly much more subjective whether they're given, often taking into account the context of the game. Refs are happy to dish out yellows to control a game because the consequences are minimal, but the bar for a second yellow is often higher, because the consequences are more severe.

I remember Gareth Barry being sent off for two yellows a few years back. Both were by the book yellows (something like a cynical pull of the shirt and a nothing handball). What stood out, was that although you couldn't really argue with either being officially a yellow, they were fouls that happen all the time, and it was rare to actually see a player get sent off for them.

Starting to ask for a second opinion on all potential second yellows and decide which ones are "big", is expanding it's scope significantly, and not sure I'd really want that.

The Milner decision was poor yesterday, but it was worse because of the context of the game - the biggest of the season for the last few years, the non-penalty call in the first half, the fact that he was involved in the second goal. Pretty sure Dias committed a foul just a couple of weeks ago that was stopping an attack when he was already on a yellow, but no-one cared because we no one was so wound up.