Thatcher dead

blueonblue said:
So lets give a little detail to the usual drivel from the left


1. She supported the retention of capital punishment

She reflected the wishes of the people then (and now) on this, it this was put to a referendum it would be returned.

2. She destroyed the country's manufacturing industry

The clean air act killed coal mining, containers the dockers jobs, wage costs & working practices made British products far more expensive and poorer quality, an it was the British union members who bought the jap cars and imported goods NOT HER.

3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws

Given the number of single parents and problem kids today it looks like she was proved right by time and results

4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren ("Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher")

Harold Wilson’s labour government removed free milk from all 11- to 18-year-olds in 1968, yet nobody vilified the then education secretary, Ted Short. Three years later the Heath administration took away milk from 7- to 11-year-olds in England, yet Margaret Thatcher was singled out for everlasting blame when she as Education Secretary removed free milk from primary schools in 1971............... "Labour milk snatcher"

5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)

Yes do indeed look at how that turned out, the turn around from near bankrupt to showing a surplus when labour came to power.

6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration

Care to look at how many union members marched in support of Enoch Powell, another one branded by the liars of the left as a racist (Try reading the so called Rivers of blood speech and find one racist thing in it). again she reflected the peoples concerns on immigration and time proves her right.


7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)

The country was bankrupt, the only way was to pay off debt to bring down interest rates on our loans was to sell things, I notice labour did not spend our money building new homes, preferring to do vital things like gay rights for hamsters and ethnic classes for parrots.

8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed - the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million

She walked into a British industry dead on its feet and totally unable to compete on price or quality thanks to high wage costs and antiquated work practices, the unions can take far more blame along with progress.

9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations for the invasion of the Falkland Islands and scrapped the only Royal Navy presence in the islands

That being an unarmed ice survey ship, whos job was able to be done far better thanks to satellites, Argentina had been making noises for years and it was hardly credible it would invade, its also far more understandable than faking intelligence to drag the country into a war.

10. The poll tax

Not only not repealed by labour in the 13 years they held power, but the highest are mostly in labour controlled area`s

11. She presided over the closure of 150 coal mines; we are now crippled by the cost of energy, having to import expensive coal from abroad

The clean air act forced through by the labour party nailed the coal industry, and back then it was far cheaper to buy coal from Poland and ship it in than buy it from here.

12. She compared her "fight" against the miners to the Falklands War

Maybe because she won both yet started neither.

By now you should have a flavor of just how twisted from the truth the lefties will go, I could carry on but its far more use telling you to look things up for yourself.

Maggie Thatcher was honest, did what needed to be done for the sake of the country rather than pander to populist nonsense, and rescued this country from the brink, anyone says different go look up the facts for yourself........then tell them they are idiots.

A pen-pusher no doubt!
 
Dubai Blue said:
Vinjay said:
nimrod said:
suppose thats her fault as well..

On that subject apparently her will states (so apparently she accepted death like everyone else) that she didn't want a state funeral.
Which makes the whole exercise even more disgraceful. Leave the politics out of it for a minute and we have an old woman who's dying wish was to be laid to rest in relative peace without a big public fuss being made. Yet her most fanatical supporters choose to completely ignore that and do the exact opposite. And they then have the gall to lambast others for being disrespectful. Fucking idiots.

It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.
 
remember arthur mann said:
blueonblue said:
So lets give a little detail to the usual drivel from the left


1. She supported the retention of capital punishment

She reflected the wishes of the people then (and now) on this, it this was put to a referendum it would be returned.

2. She destroyed the country's manufacturing industry

The clean air act killed coal mining, containers the dockers jobs, wage costs & working practices made British products far more expensive and poorer quality, an it was the British union members who bought the jap cars and imported goods NOT HER.

3. She voted against the relaxation of divorce laws

Given the number of single parents and problem kids today it looks like she was proved right by time and results

4. She abolished free milk for schoolchildren ("Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher")

Harold Wilson’s labour government removed free milk from all 11- to 18-year-olds in 1968, yet nobody vilified the then education secretary, Ted Short. Three years later the Heath administration took away milk from 7- to 11-year-olds in England, yet Margaret Thatcher was singled out for everlasting blame when she as Education Secretary removed free milk from primary schools in 1971............... "Labour milk snatcher"

5. She supported more freedom for business (and look how that turned out)

Yes do indeed look at how that turned out, the turn around from near bankrupt to showing a surplus when labour came to power.

6. She gained support from the National Front in the 1979 election by pandering to the fears of immigration

Care to look at how many union members marched in support of Enoch Powell, another one branded by the liars of the left as a racist (Try reading the so called Rivers of blood speech and find one racist thing in it). again she reflected the peoples concerns on immigration and time proves her right.


7. She gerrymandered local authorities by forcing through council house sales, at the same time preventing councils from spending the money they got for selling houses on building new houses (spending on social housing dropped by 67% in her premiership)

The country was bankrupt, the only way was to pay off debt to bring down interest rates on our loans was to sell things, I notice labour did not spend our money building new homes, preferring to do vital things like gay rights for hamsters and ethnic classes for parrots.

8. She was responsible for 3.6 million unemployed - the highest figure and the highest proportion of the workforce in history and three times the previous government. Massaging of the figures means that the figure was closer to 5 million

She walked into a British industry dead on its feet and totally unable to compete on price or quality thanks to high wage costs and antiquated work practices, the unions can take far more blame along with progress.

9. She ignored intelligence about Argentinian preparations for the invasion of the Falkland Islands and scrapped the only Royal Navy presence in the islands

That being an unarmed ice survey ship, whos job was able to be done far better thanks to satellites, Argentina had been making noises for years and it was hardly credible it would invade, its also far more understandable than faking intelligence to drag the country into a war.

10. The poll tax

Not only not repealed by labour in the 13 years they held power, but the highest are mostly in labour controlled area`s

11. She presided over the closure of 150 coal mines; we are now crippled by the cost of energy, having to import expensive coal from abroad

The clean air act forced through by the labour party nailed the coal industry, and back then it was far cheaper to buy coal from Poland and ship it in than buy it from here.

12. She compared her "fight" against the miners to the Falklands War

Maybe because she won both yet started neither.

By now you should have a flavor of just how twisted from the truth the lefties will go, I could carry on but its far more use telling you to look things up for yourself.

Maggie Thatcher was honest, did what needed to be done for the sake of the country rather than pander to populist nonsense, and rescued this country from the brink, anyone says different go look up the facts for yourself........then tell them they are idiots.

A pen-pusher no doubt!

He makes some valid points.
 
Chris in London said:
Dubai Blue said:
Vinjay said:
On that subject apparently her will states (so apparently she accepted death like everyone else) that she didn't want a state funeral.
Which makes the whole exercise even more disgraceful. Leave the politics out of it for a minute and we have an old woman who's dying wish was to be laid to rest in relative peace without a big public fuss being made. Yet her most fanatical supporters choose to completely ignore that and do the exact opposite. And they then have the gall to lambast others for being disrespectful. Fucking idiots.

It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.

Ah-so Grasshopper! Thought provoking though.
 
Chris in London said:
Dubai Blue said:
Vinjay said:
On that subject apparently her will states (so apparently she accepted death like everyone else) that she didn't want a state funeral.
Which makes the whole exercise even more disgraceful. Leave the politics out of it for a minute and we have an old woman who's dying wish was to be laid to rest in relative peace without a big public fuss being made. Yet her most fanatical supporters choose to completely ignore that and do the exact opposite. And they then have the gall to lambast others for being disrespectful. Fucking idiots.

It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.
Good point well made.
 
Chris in London said:
It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.
She was a politician with a job to do, not a bloody vicar.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Chris in London said:
It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.
She was a politician with a job to do, not a bloody vicar.

She was a self serving **** with no regard for anyone but her "kind" and those she thought
'above" her.
 
pominoz said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Chris in London said:
It is properly ironic that the ones who lambasted her policies for their lack of compassion are the ones showing the least compassion at her passing, and the ones demanding that some compassion be shown at her death are the ones who most supported her compassionless programme of government.
She was a politician with a job to do, not a bloody vicar.

She was a self serving **** with no regard for anyone but her "kind" and those she thought
'above" her.
What was her kind?
 
"A pen-pusher no doubt!"

Hardly dear boy, I left school aged 15 an went to work as a laborer, by 18 I was doing 12 hour shifts an still lived in my parents Hulme council house, after getting married I went to night school and built up my own business, bought my own house an raised two kids...........and a fully paid up union member while doing it until they started playing politics rather than represent their members best interests.
 

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