The ‘empty seats’ myth peddled by Liverpool supporters

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Just did a little research and would now like to put this silliness to bed. Source is soccerstats.com.

Our average attendance this season is 54,087 and on average the ground is 98.2% full.

Liverpool’s average attendance this season is 52,926 and on average their ground is 97.9% full.

Which is less full than ours. There are, as a %, more empty seats at their ground.

End of chat.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Just did a little research and would now like to put this silliness to bed. Source is soccerstats.com.

Our average attendance this season is 54,087 and on average the ground is 98.2% full.

Liverpool’s average attendance this season is 52,926 and on average their ground is 97.9% full.

Which is less full than ours. There are, as a %, more empty seats at their ground.

End of chat.
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Where is the DOBLE Like button when you need it?
 
Let’s be honest, there are games like last week where there are only about 49000 in the ground but City say there are 53559.

What it shows is that we don’t have a sea of plastic nobodies taking up the slack when proper fans can’t make it/can’t afford it.

When the Icelandic ash cloud grounded all flights Liverpool played West Ham and got an attendance of 37697 because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

When United had to play Bournemouth in a rearranged fixture after a bomb scare post-poned the original fixture there were about 44000 there because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

We struggled to sell out our semifinal yesterday because we don’t have any plastic nobodies supporting us.

When we had a terrible season under Pearce our average attendance was 39000. Any club from any of the bigger cities all have around the same amount of core local supporters who they can count on within a few thousand of each other.

Nobody else matters because they are plastic nobodies. All these Southerners, Irish, Americans etc. who follow Liverpool and United don’t count. They don’t have a clue what supporting your local team through thick and thin is all about.
 
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Attendance figures are by tickets sold, as opposed to people through the gate, is that right?
Maybe we have more season ticket holders who for one reason or other can't attend every single game?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Let’s be honest, there are games like last week where there are only about 49000 in the ground but City say there are 53559.

What it shows is that we don’t have a sea of plastic nobodies taking up the slack when proper fans can’t make it/can’t afford it.

When the Icelandic ash cloud grounded all flights Liverpool player West Ham and got an attendance of 37697 because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

When United had to play Bournemouth in a rearranged fixture after a bomb scare post-poned the original fixture there were about 44000 there because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

We struggled to sell out our semifinal yesterday because we don’t have any plastic nobodies supporting us.
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We didn’t sell out yesterday due to context mate.

We’ve already been to Wembley for the league cup semi and final.

In the next few weeks we have the CL quarter final legs, 6 important league games, an fa cup for final,2 potential CL semi legs and a CL final.

That’s a lot of ‘big’ games coming up. That’s a fuck lot of money to find.

A cup semi v Brighton is clearly the ‘smallest’ of all the above games.

When prioritising, it’s not going to be at the top of many supporter’s lists. In fact, of all the remaining games it would likely to the least interesting or important to the vast majority of sensible blues.
 
Stoned Rose said:
We didn’t sell out yesterday due to context mate.

We’ve already been to Wembley for the league cup semi and final.

In the next few weeks we have the CL quarter final legs, 6 important league games, an fa cup for final,2 potential CL semi legs and a CL final.

That’s a lot of ‘big’ games coming up. That’s a fuck lot of money to find.

A cup semi v Brighton is clearly the ‘smallest’ of all the above games.

When prioritising, it’s not going to be at the top of many supporter’s list. In fact, of all the remaining games it would likely to the least interesting or important to the vast majority of sensible blues.
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Exactly.

If we had a load of plastic nobodies following us we’d have had more fans there yesterday.

I’m glad we didn’t and glad we don’t. I’d rather not sell out and keep our fanbase how it is.
 
city saint said:
ahh but the dipper fans say that shaky fella buys loads of tickets to make it look better
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Believe this.

There’s a dipper on the RAWK city thread who suggests that City’s online social media presence is due to Mansour ‘farming’ loads of poor Arabs and forcing them to post online to give city an online presence.

Genuinely.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Let’s be honest, there are games like last week where there are only about 49000 in the ground but City say there are 53559.

What it shows is that we don’t have a sea of plastic nobodies taking up the slack when proper fans can’t make it/can’t afford it.

When the Icelandic ash cloud grounded all flights Liverpool played West Ham and got an attendance of 37697 because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

When United had to play Bournemouth in a rearranged fixture after a bomb scare post-poned the original fixture there were about 44000 there because all the plastic nobodies couldn’t get there.

We struggled to sell out our semifinal yesterday because we don’t have any plastic nobodies supporting us.

When we had a terrible season under Pearce our average attendance was 39000. Any club from any of the bigger cities all have around the same amount of core local supporters who they can count on within a few thousand of each other.

Nobody else matters because they are plastic nobodies. All these Southerners, Irish, Americans etc. who follow Liverpool and United don’t count. They don’t have a clue what supporting your local team through thick and thin is all about.
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I’m Irish and wanted to go yesterday.

There wasn’t a return flight from London to be found under 200. I was looking at about 500 to go, simply not an option.

Any fanbase would have struggled with the 5.30 sat kickoff, plus you then have to factor in the constant games in London this year. It’s too much to ask fans tbh.
 
Stoned Rose said:
I do.

This constant lie they spout completely burns my head out.
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I try and ignore the shite peddled because it isn't worth it. I refuse to get drawn into discussion with fuckwits who have no basis other than jealousy .

The fuckers will continue too peddle their shit , and deep down I know they are hurting - keep it coming.
 
This is what makes me laugh, they claim we are a small club with no history.
I have asked what would make us a big club then? the answer 20 years minimum of consistant success.

So come back in another 10 - 15 years and compare at that stage then, I would be more concerned if we were selling out every week as the people filling those seats would be the fickle people who jump from club to club dependent on success. We are building our fan base each year and will continue to do so, my Mrs works in a school and regularl comments that the kids wearing City shirts now outnumber the kids wearing shirts of other clubs.

Now these kids are growing up as blues but can only get to games if their parent take them, and to be fair if their parents were rags would they actively take them to one of our matches?

We are doing just fine, for me though the club are not helping the situation at all, we have thousands of fans in the new extension and yet have empty seats facing the TV camera.

Surely it makes sense to off these seats at a better price to ensure they are full especially behind the goal. The first thing i would do is to move the family stand.
 
They latch on to something that can be peddled and supported by the RDAHMeedya instead of concentrating on the one thing that frightens the shit out of teams - the quality of football we display, and the talent each player brings to the team. They can't match it. They might accumulate more points courtesy of Pickford handling and the largesse of refs when El Pharaoh feels the draught of a programme page turning on the Kop, but what really irks them is that they can't play the game like we do! Klippity knows it!
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
They latch on to something that can be peddled and supported by the RDAHMeedya instead of concentrating on the one thing that frightens the shit out of teams - the quality of football we display, and the talent each player brings to the team. They can't match it. They might accumulate more points courtesy of Pickford handling and the largesse of refs when El Pharaoh feels the draught of a programme page turning on the Kop, but what really irks them is that they can't play the game like we do! Klippity knows it!
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" Never mind the quality, feel the width " should be the dippers slogan.
 
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