RobMCFC
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Looking ahead to next week, I'm just checking that @denislawsbackheel is still OK with nominating an album next Tuesday because I've not seen you around this neck of the woods since week #1!
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The Album Review Club - Week #145 - (page 1923) - Tellin' Stories - The Charlatans
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Mancitydoogle
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Wasn’t a fan of TS until I heard Ryan Adams version of her album 1989I think she's fantastic. We were gutted last year, we had to tickets to see her at Hyde Park, but it was cancelled due to covid. And my 12 year old daughter does really like her, but it was me who got her into her. As for her more recent stuff, Folklore is much more toned down from the big pop tune stuff, written with one of the guys from the National. If you liked the earlier stuff, and you haven't heard it, defo worth a listen. It's brilliant.
the song writing was so good I thought it’s one of his better albums
i then went and listened to a few of hers and I agree she’s very talented.
Protein Junkie
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And this why I can’t take to KC.Robert Fripp is a genius in many ways, but he also has ego the size of block of flats.
Apparently he once said to Bruford “you are now ready to play in King Crimson” after he left Yes.
I perceive that as disparaging to the latter.
Bruford undeniably a great drummer but he doesn't half slate Yes in various documentaries. Maybe it’s just but I do not like it.
Rant over
Saddleworth2
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They were a couple of old foggy 60 year olds. They would never have liked Yes at their age. ;-)That would depend on whether they were Yes fans :)
Mancitydoogle
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Ok ,
my two penneth Fwiw, I was looking forward to this as I had only heard KCs
‘twenty first century schizoid man’ and I’m not a fan of prog rock early Genesis exceptEd.
My older brother was and had the Yes album and COTCK when they were first realessed.I never listened to most of his music ,as at that stage in our lives there was a lot of sibling rivalry especially him being a rag!
Anway on to ‘Red’
ive listenEd to this a few times now, but it’s not for me.I think it’s great musicianship not suprising given the line up ,but most of the songs I find self indulgent,‘One more red nightmare’ and Starless ‘ were ok but let down by John Wettons vocals
’Providence’ as others have said sounds like a tuning up session from a free form jazz band.
Unlike ’Foxtrot’ I can’t see me listening to this again.
Sorry Bill, after all you did recommend Elgar’s Nimrod which I have listened to quite a few times now.
5/10
my two penneth Fwiw, I was looking forward to this as I had only heard KCs
‘twenty first century schizoid man’ and I’m not a fan of prog rock early Genesis exceptEd.
My older brother was and had the Yes album and COTCK when they were first realessed.I never listened to most of his music ,as at that stage in our lives there was a lot of sibling rivalry especially him being a rag!
Anway on to ‘Red’
ive listenEd to this a few times now, but it’s not for me.I think it’s great musicianship not suprising given the line up ,but most of the songs I find self indulgent,‘One more red nightmare’ and Starless ‘ were ok but let down by John Wettons vocals
’Providence’ as others have said sounds like a tuning up session from a free form jazz band.
Unlike ’Foxtrot’ I can’t see me listening to this again.
Sorry Bill, after all you did recommend Elgar’s Nimrod which I have listened to quite a few times now.
5/10
Marklr
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I've been listening to the odd bit of music by King Crimson for the last few years now...trying to 'get them'. My older brother was (and still is) into them back in the day, but they kind of went over my head.
I've been loving the instrumentation....Fripps guitar, deep bass and amazing drumming. It's always when the singing started did I feel disappointed. The songs never really grabbed me. I found them to be a bit, dare I say it: a bit middle of the road. The vocals seemed a bit bland for the brilliant music. I thought the vocals would be that of 21st Century Schizoid Man...or something a bit more edgy than what i heard.
So I've been listening to Red now for the last few days and, today, it got me. The songs are now making more sense in my head. The intro piece, Red is a great jam. Is that only 3 instruments? Sounds mega! Fallen Angel is an epic of sorts...sad story with huge guitars parts. Just what the doctor ordered. I think my fave at the moment is One More Red Nightmare. Love that "woooooooghhhw" sound! Some great sounds on this one. Wet hand claps!! Another added to my playlist. Providence is nowt really....I could probably make the same sounds in my shed with a spinning bike wheel and a stick and a few other things. It's a filler.
Not Starless though..haha. I've not got fully familiar with it just yet, but I know I like it. It's got a fucking mellotron!
I'm going to score it a 7/10. It's gone up from a 6. Next listen could be an 8. One thing for sure, I'm gonna be listening to more King Crimson in this latter half of my life. Latter quarter, I mean. Maybe even the last eighth. We never know. Cheers Big Bill Walker.
I've been loving the instrumentation....Fripps guitar, deep bass and amazing drumming. It's always when the singing started did I feel disappointed. The songs never really grabbed me. I found them to be a bit, dare I say it: a bit middle of the road. The vocals seemed a bit bland for the brilliant music. I thought the vocals would be that of 21st Century Schizoid Man...or something a bit more edgy than what i heard.
So I've been listening to Red now for the last few days and, today, it got me. The songs are now making more sense in my head. The intro piece, Red is a great jam. Is that only 3 instruments? Sounds mega! Fallen Angel is an epic of sorts...sad story with huge guitars parts. Just what the doctor ordered. I think my fave at the moment is One More Red Nightmare. Love that "woooooooghhhw" sound! Some great sounds on this one. Wet hand claps!! Another added to my playlist. Providence is nowt really....I could probably make the same sounds in my shed with a spinning bike wheel and a stick and a few other things. It's a filler.
Not Starless though..haha. I've not got fully familiar with it just yet, but I know I like it. It's got a fucking mellotron!
I'm going to score it a 7/10. It's gone up from a 6. Next listen could be an 8. One thing for sure, I'm gonna be listening to more King Crimson in this latter half of my life. Latter quarter, I mean. Maybe even the last eighth. We never know. Cheers Big Bill Walker.
OB1
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Somebody's top 35 PROG albums. Crimson's Red at 23 and Foxtrot at 21. Some modern bands in there too...stuff I'm not familiar with.
I've got 25 of those albums plus an Alan Parsons Anthology.
Bill Walker
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Haha thats ok mate no need for apologies, you tried it !!Ok ,
my two penneth Fwiw, I was looking forward to this as I had only heard KCs
‘twenty first century schizoid man’ and I’m not a fan of prog rock early Genesis exceptEd.
My older brother was and had the Yes album and COTCK when they were first realessed.I never listened to most of his music ,as at that stage in our lives there was a lot of sibling rivalry especially him being a rag!
Anway on to ‘Red’
ive listenEd to this a few times now, but it’s not for me.I think it’s great musicianship not suprising given the line up ,but most of the songs I find self indulgent,‘One more red nightmare’ and Starless ‘ were ok but let down by John Wettons vocals
’Providence’ as others have said sounds like a tuning up session from a free form jazz band.
Unlike ’Foxtrot’ I can’t see me listening to this again.
Sorry Bill, after all you did recommend Elgar’s Nimrod which I have listened to quite a few times now.
5/10
OB1
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I think she's fantastic. We were gutted last year, we had to tickets to see her at Hyde Park, but it was cancelled due to covid. And my 12 year old daughter does really like her, but it was me who got her into her. As for her more recent stuff, Folklore is much more toned down from the big pop tune stuff, written with one of the guys from the National. If you liked the earlier stuff, and you haven't heard it, defo worth a listen. It's brilliant.
I had tickets for my daughters and me for Hyde Park. May still be required to take them if she tours here in not too distant.
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Bill Walker
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I don't think Fripp ever said that, according to BB Fripp saidAnd this why I can’t take to KC.
Apparently he once said to Bruford “you are now ready to play in King Crimson” after he left Yes.
I perceive that as disparaging to the latter.
Bruford undeniably a great drummer but he doesn't half slate Yes in various documentaries. Maybe it’s just but I do not like it.
Rant over
"I'm proposing a band, and it has you in it, and it has a crazed avant-garde, improvising drummer called Jamie Muir, and it has a violin player [David Cross] and the best young bass player in London called John Wetton. Do you want to be in it?'"
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