BimboBob
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Liam Neesen, Marti Pellow, Ricky Wilson and Jason Donovan originally and Liam Neeson, Newton Faulkner and the Donovan more recently.
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The Album Review Club - Week #145 - (page 1923) - Tellin' Stories - The Charlatans
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OB1
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We have some common ground but you are coming at it like you are writing for NME and I'm more of a Sounds man.Hmm we seem to be agreeing but it feels like we arent
BimboBob
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I'm more Chichester Observer.We have some common ground but you are coming at it like you are writing for NME and I'm more of a Sounds man.
OB1
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I think it was a conscious decision to use disco as it was a popular musical genre at the time - clearly a commercial decision. Forever Autumn, according to Wikipedia, even had it's origins in an actual Lego commercial.
In my unconsidered rushed thinking this morning then that actually reinforced my point in the original review. Art has failed. When art is fundamentally about selling you may as well just give the same value to the Mona Lisa as you would a live, laugh, love poster.
So if the intention was to make a speedboat load of money and be successful then yes it's a success. It's a cynical and manipulative exercise though and not worthy of everyone's warm nostalgic feelings. It's Bullseye hosted by Anthony Hopkins.
I think the music is of its time and if there was a commercial decision, it was not to make the music extreme or too heavy: I am sure it was intended to be a pleasant repeatable listening experience. Wayne wanted it to be entertaining and he succeeded in that.
mrbelfry
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I don't understand the reference but I have a low opinion of the NME based on when I last read it (20+ years ago) so I will infer an insult :)We have some common ground but you are coming at it like you are writing for NME and I'm more of a Sounds man.
mrbelfry
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And by extension failed to tell the story :) end of days is neither pleasant or repeatable. I agree however that it is entertaining. I'm going round in circles and I already said I'd bow out so other people get chance to comment. I fear I've already been an irritationI think the music is of its time and if there was a commercial decision, it was not to make the music extreme or too heavy: I am sure it was intended to be a pleasant repeatable listening experience. Wayne wanted it to be entertaining and he succeeded in that.
OB1
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I don't understand the reference but I have a low opinion of the NME based on when I last read it (20+ years ago) so I will infer an insult :)
Not an insult, just different. I used to read both every week at one point and for a spell Melody Maker too. We are going back forty years though.
OB1
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Not irritating me.And by extension failed to tell the story :) end of days is neither pleasant or repeatable. I agree however that it is entertaining. I'm going round in circles and I already said I'd bow out so other people get chance to comment. I fear I've already been an irritation
You see, there we differ though. I think it does tell the story in a manner that millions (me included) enjoy but we are probably going to go round in circles.
OB1
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I know this is not the movie thread but are we finding out the two?
As you've mentioned films/tv though the Tom Cruise one was maybe what you would expect, the last BBC adaptation of this which got panned a bit I quite enjoyed.
I quite enjoyed the Cruise version but Spielberg is my favourite movie director. It could have been better and I would have preferred it to have been set in the same time and place as the original but did not object to modernising it.
mrbelfry
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I've only seen that movie once but I was reminded of parts of it whilst listening such as the harbour attack. Knowing abit more of the source story made the Cruise version make a little more senseI quite enjoyed the Cruise version but Spielberg is my favourite movie director. It could have been better and I would have preferred it to have been set in the same time and place as the original but did not object to modernising it.