The battle for 4th place

[Paladin]

Its become impossible to tell who really don't get it and who are on the wind up?

If you're meaning me, I am not on the wind up. I just wondered if the fourth automatic spot (albeit to the qualifying rounds) gets passed on to the fifth place if we qualify as CL champions.

 

[bellsouth]

Each association is allowed up to 5 CL entrants. However the 5th will only be allocated if the winner of CL and/or EL are already qualified (ie finished in top 4).
So, we finish in top 4 and win CL and Liverpool don't win EL = just the top 4 qualify as normal
we finish top 4, win the CL and Liverpool win EL = top 4 qualify + Liverpool
we finish top 4 don't win CL and Liverpool win EL = as above
we finish outside top 4 and win CL and Liverpool don't win EL = top 4 qualify + us
we finish outside top 4 and win CL and Liverpool win EL = top 3 qualify + us + Liverpool

Note the last one is the only way 4th can be eliminated from qualifying and as for your specific question 5th cannot ever qualify on its own, only if it happens to be also a team that has won either CL or EL (in which case it matters nor whether they are 5th, 6th or 20th)

And breathe

 

[Dribble]

It still amazes me that Leicester have gone the whole season more or less injury free.
Surely they are doing something different to us and other teams in their preparation/training?

They've got this huge walk in freezer thing that the players have to spend 5-10 minutes in after each game. Apparently it helps repair muscle tissue and rid the body of lactic acid. It sounded like a pile of shite at the beginning of the season, but now I reckon we'll be seeing a spike in heists on butchers shops all round the country!

If Leicester do win the title, they'll make a film about this and I reckon it could also be a game changer in terms of the 'traditional top four'. I reckon teams like WHU and Spurs enter the fray because that fear factor that the also rans used to have regarding the top 4 is rapidly evaporating and as more money flows into the game and the effects of FFP begin to bite the top clubs, I reckon it'll narrow the gap between all competing clubs in the top 8 as this season has already shown.

 

[mad zab]

Each association is allowed up to 5 CL entrants. However the 5th will only be allocated if the winner of CL and/or EL are already qualified (ie finished in top 4).
So, we finish in top 4 and win CL and Liverpool don't win EL = just the top 4 qualify as normal
we finish top 4, win the CL and Liverpool win EL = top 4 qualify + Liverpool
we finish top 4 don't win CL and Liverpool win EL = as above
we finish outside top 4 and win CL and Liverpool don't win EL = top 4 qualify + us
we finish outside top 4 and win CL and Liverpool win EL = top 3 qualify + us + Liverpool

Note the last one is the only way 4th can be eliminated from qualifying and as for your specific question 5th cannot ever qualify on its own, only if it happens to be also a team that has won either CL or EL (in which case it matters nor whether they are 5th, 6th or 20th)

And breathe

I am very sure that if we finish outside the top 4 and win the CL we replace the 4th team. The extra place is only gained if one of our teams win the EL.

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

We need at the minimum a 3rd place finish to have a place in next seasons Champions League. A 4th place finish means that you have to qualify for the Champions League. If Liverpool go on to win the Europa League then 4th place will only qualify for the Europa League next season

No.... England (& Spain & Germany) can have up to 5 teams in the Champions League. In that scenario above, the top 4 qualify (or go into the play off round) & Liverpool qualify. The ONLY way that 4th doesn't get into the Champs League is if we win the CL, Liverpool win the EL AND we don't finish in the top 4.

 

[daveyboybluemoon]

I am very sure that if we finish outside the top 4 and win the CL we replace the 4th team. The extra place is only gained if one of our teams win the EL.

No Bellsouth is spot on The ONLY way that 4th doesn't get into the Champs League is if we win the CL, Liverpool win the EL AND we don't finish in the top 4 (In which case it will probably be United missing out which would be brilliant)

 

[mad zab]

No Bellsouth is spot on The ONLY way that 4th doesn't get into the Champs League is if we win the CL, Liverpool win the EL AND we don't finish in the top 4 (In which case it will probably be United missing out which would be brilliant)

This is the line I highlighted

we finish outside top 4 and win CL and Liverpool don't win EL = top 4 qualify + us

If Liverpool don't win the EL we can only have four teams that qualify for the CL. The extra place is for the Europa League Winners.

If we finish out the top 4 and win the CL, then we will take the 4th spot ahead of the 4th placed team.

 

[Tam]

I am very sure that if we finish outside the top 4 and win the CL we replace the 4th team. The extra place is only gained if one of our teams win the EL.

That's what used to happen, Spurs lost out that way. But eufa changed the rules so a maximum of 5 teams from any one country can qualify.

 

[Chi-town blues]

Juicing

Lab juicing ?

 

[marco]

There two other games Norwich and Villa both at home lol.

wel'l get a result at Swansea,they were gash at Leicester, Southampton is the tricky one and there game with Norwich will be no walk in the park as if Norwich don't get anything they will most certainly be on there way down