The battle for 4th place

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SWP's back said:
If my options are; walk along a path in the piss pouring rain or throw myself off the cliff to get out of the rain, then I'd state they are limited options. What I wouldn't do, is throw myself off the flaming cliff.

You can say limited options as much as you want, but I've posted on the pre game threads so many times ("I hope he doesn't do this or we are fucked...") only for him to then do that, and us get fucked. Making a mistake is easy enough, failing to learn from that mistake over and over again shows he's either a fucking idiot, or didn't give a fuck.

He's the nob that states "we don't change our style, we play the same way every game". And he's right, he does, that's why every manager in the league has worked out how to play us.

I can't think of five managers currently employed in the PL that I honestly think would have done worse over his tenure, given his resources. He's a fucking fraud and luckily, we have a manager coming in that will actually plan and train for each game to nullify the opposition and make the most of their weaknesses as opposed to simply think "we don't change, let them worry about us". That thinking should have died out in the 70's.
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Agreed
 
SWP's back said:
If my options are; walk along a path in the piss pouring rain or throw myself off the cliff to get out of the rain, then I'd state they are limited options. What I wouldn't do, is throw myself off the flaming cliff.

You can say limited options as much as you want, but I've posted on the pre game threads so many times ("I hope he doesn't do this or we are fucked...") only for him to then do that, and us get fucked. Making a mistake is easy enough, failing to learn from that mistake over and over again shows he's either a fucking idiot, or didn't give a fuck.

He's the nob that states "we don't change our style, we play the same way every game". And he's right, he does, that's why every manager in the league has worked out how to play us.

I can't think of five managers currently employed in the PL that I honestly think would have done worse over his tenure, given his resources. He's a fucking fraud and luckily, we have a manager coming in that will actually plan and train for each game to nullify the opposition and make the most of their weaknesses as opposed to simply think "we don't change, let them worry about us". That thinking should have died out in the 70's.
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Bang on. He was a really poor appointment at the time and I think most could see he was an extremely limited manager within 6/7 months of his first season. Can't wait until he is gone,it's been a huge mistake on the clubs part to keep him beyond last season Pep or no Pep. We have regressed under his tenure which in fairness the hierarchy have to shoulder a lot of the blame.
 
SWP's back said:
If my options are; walk along a path in the piss pouring rain or throw myself off the cliff to get out of the rain, then I'd state they are limited options. What I wouldn't do, is throw myself off the flaming cliff.

You can say limited options as much as you want, but I've posted on the pre game threads so many times ("I hope he doesn't do this or we are fucked...") only for him to then do that, and us get fucked. Making a mistake is easy enough, failing to learn from that mistake over and over again shows he's either a fucking idiot, or didn't give a fuck.

He's the nob that states "we don't change our style, we play the same way every game". And he's right, he does, that's why every manager in the league has worked out how to play us.

I can't think of five managers currently employed in the PL that I honestly think would have done worse over his tenure, given his resources. He's a fucking fraud and luckily, we have a manager coming in that will actually plan and train for each game to nullify the opposition and make the most of their weaknesses as opposed to simply think "we don't change, let them worry about us". That thinking should have died out in the 70's.
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Sadly agree 100%
 
prof-taf said:
I suspect injuries, number of games etc. Not defending pell completely, he has made many mistakes, but players can't get a free ride.
I expect them to show today a passion not seen for a while. Fingers crossed
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injuries are one thing. refusing to change a player or a formation that didn't work is malpractice imo.
 
The Bony v Nacho argument isn't simply linked to starts; it's also linked to which one comes on as a sub.
There's also the issue of bringing the kids in. We've had a few games where we've been comfortable yet he's chucked on MDM instead of a youngster; hence the carnage at Stamford Bridge when he threw them all in at the same time. It may well have been the old lags that let us down but the kids weren't given any real preparation.
It's not all MP's fault of course. TB & FS don't appear to have been fully supportive, and the players have hardly been pulling up trees; preferring to pull muscles.
It's a mess. But it might well be far less of a mess in about 4 hours. Think I'll toddle along to the game.
 
dubblue said:
Bang on. He was a really poor appointment at the time and I think most could see he was an extremely limited manager within 6/7 months of his first season. Can't wait until he is gone,it's been a huge mistake on the clubs part to keep him beyond last season Pep or no Pep. We have regressed under his tenure which in fairness the hierarchy have to shoulder a lot of the blame.
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totally agree. I said so at the time on here and got pelters for it. if I could see it why couldn't txixi and co?
 
SWP's back said:
If my options are; walk along a path in the piss pouring rain or throw myself off the cliff to get out of the rain, then I'd state they are limited options. What I wouldn't do, is throw myself off the flaming cliff.
You can say limited options as much as you want, but I've posted on the pre game threads so many times ("I hope he doesn't do this or we are fucked...") only for him to then do that, and us get fucked. Making a mistake is easy enough, failing to learn from that mistake over and over again shows he's either a fucking idiot, or didn't give a fuck.

He's the nob that states "we don't change our style, we play the same way every game". And he's right, he does, that's why every manager in the league has worked out how to play us.

I can't think of five managers currently employed in the PL that I honestly think would have done worse over his tenure, given his resources. He's a fucking fraud and luckily, we have a manager coming in that will actually plan and train for each game to nullify the opposition and make the most of their weaknesses as opposed to simply think "we don't change, let them worry about us". That thinking should have died out in the 70's.
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Strongly worded but bang on
 
SWP's back said:
If my options are; walk along a path in the piss pouring rain or throw myself off the cliff to get out of the rain, then I'd state they are limited options. What I wouldn't do, is throw myself off the flaming cliff.

You can say limited options as much as you want, but I've posted on the pre game threads so many times ("I hope he doesn't do this or we are fucked...") only for him to then do that, and us get fucked. Making a mistake is easy enough, failing to learn from that mistake over and over again shows he's either a fucking idiot, or didn't give a fuck.

He's the nob that states "we don't change our style, we play the same way every game". And he's right, he does, that's why every manager in the league has worked out how to play us.

I can't think of five managers currently employed in the PL that I honestly think would have done worse over his tenure, given his resources. He's a fucking fraud and luckily, we have a manager coming in that will actually plan and train for each game to nullify the opposition and make the most of their weaknesses as opposed to simply think "we don't change, let them worry about us". That thinking should have died out in the 70's.
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As I said I don't believe we are worlds apart in our analysis. its just where you then take it. Pellegrini isn't an idiot. His 'we play the same' line in my opinion is his way of giving the media short shrift- The squad has reached its end point and needs a complete overhaul, but he hasn't been a failure, a nob, fraud or a c*nt.
 
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