The battle for 4th place

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almir said:
yep, liverpool will go to CL. We'd be in EL regardless of League Cup win.
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And are 5th lowest after todays point so guaranteed no play off (as cup win only did have attached) and straight into the groups seeded from mid/late September.

So in that sense better than a 4 th place CL play off in August. Best we can get now unless Arsenal lose to Villa at home!!!
 
deano ou812 said:
The irony we are to get one of the top coaches/manager in football and we look like failing to achieve top 4 for champions league football could only happen to us typical city ...
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We've ruined many a player down the years, it's about time we started ruining managers!!
 
Bournemouth owner is a Big Blue so i wouldnt rule them out getting a draw final day its been that kind of season.. KEEP the FAITH..
 
Of course, we can hope that EUFA find a reason to expel one of the other English CL qualifiers this year and they let 5th in instead. :)

Must...not...grasp....straws.
 
marco said:
TBH i dont know much about how odds are adjusted prior to the event in real time, i always thought they were dictated by how the money is being placed so lets say lots of money goes on united tomorrow then there odds will shorten and ours will drift, i remember being told from some source many years ago that it was illegal for a bookmaker to tamper with odds artificially and odds had to adjust naturally according to the backing patterns but that could have been some bollox story
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Weight of money will cause odds to shorten but it is based in probability, and as others say its mostly dictated by the exchanges and the 'wisdom of crowds'.
 
Here are the updated possibilities and it's no longer in our own hands:
Lowest we can realistically finish is 5th as West Ham are 16 goals worse off than us.
Rags win both and we're 5th unless we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates in which case we'll be 4th and Arse 5th.
Rags get 4 points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. However we're 5th if we fail to win at Swansea.
Rags get three points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. A draw at Swansea should be sufficient but we'll be biting our fingernails down to the elbows every time Swansea attack.
Rags get fewer than three points - we're third or fourth.
 
East Level 2 said:
Here are the updated possibilities and it's no longer in our own hands:
Lowest we can realistically finish is 5th as West Ham are 16 goals worse off than us.
Rags win both and we're 5th unless we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates in which case we'll be 4th and Arse 5th.
Rags get 4 points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. However we're 5th if we fail to win at Swansea.
Rags get three points - we're 4th if we win at Swansea, and third if we win at Swansea and Villa win at t'Emirates. Rags would be 5th. A draw at Swansea should be sufficient but we'll be biting our fingernails down to the elbows every time Swansea attack.
Rags get fewer than three points - we're third or fourth.
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Thanks for this.

It appears the key game is Tuesday night.
 
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