The battle for 4th place

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If a team outside the top 4 wins the europa or champs league then we get 5 teams in the Champs league, if both city and pool win and finish outside top 4 its still only 5 teams, 4th spot would then miss out. So the only way 4th spot misses out is if city and pool both win. So city can not be effected in any way, finish 4th and we qualify.
 
Is this thread on a loop?? How many times do people need to be told Liverpool winning the EL has no effect on us whatsoever.

Very important 3 points today to give us that little cushion again. I think us playing after United, West Ham and Liverpool next week is a good thing in the sense that we know what we have to do. If we was playing first I can just see us playing without urgency especially sandwiched in between the Madrid matches. If the other teams won (especially United) the players are under huge pressure to get a result and hopefully it will increase our performance levels. I know in an ideal world you would like to think the players would be busting a gut for 3 points every week especially with Champions League at stake, but you know our players turn it on when they feel like it.I think a win and 2 draws would do it as I reckon United will drop points in at least one game.
 
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