The battle for 4th place

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So if Klopp turns up on Shergar and Lord Lucan scores the winner in extra time will we still go straight to the QF of the cup winners cup
 
so whats the deal with Liverpool? They win EL and they get a 5th space in CL? Or do they get 4th's place?

Spain had 5 teams this season.
Valencia qualified by finishing 4th, but Sevilla also qualified by winning the Europa League

Similarly, if Liverpool win the Europa League, it won’t affect the team that finishes 4th.

The only anomaly would be if City finished 5th, but replaced the 4rh placed team by winning the Champions League.
That was the situation in 2012 when Spurs finished 4th, but were trumped by Chelsea beating Bayern Munich.
 
Spain had 5 teams this season.
Valencia qualified by finishing 4th, but Sevilla also qualified by winning the Europa League

Similarly, if Liverpool win the Europa League, it won’t affect the team that finishes 4th.

The only anomaly would be if City finished 5th, but replaced the 4rh placed team by winning the Champions League.
That was the situation in 2012 when Spurs finished 4th, but were trumped by Chelsea beating Bayern Munich.

But Liverpool didn't win the Europa league in 2012, Atleti did. So your point makes no sense.
 
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