The Beatles through the years...

Have a listen to Love - Forever Changes. Released the same year as Sgt Peppers but light years ahead. It made Lennon & McCartney's efforts sound like nursery rhymes.
The White Album is a classic but a lot of their other stuff does not stand the test of time

I've listened to Love plenty of times. Great album, with Alone again or a stunning opener, but even it has a dated feel in parts, and that notwithstanding when did 1 great album equate to 11 or 12. Sgt Pepper has aged badly because so much of it was experimental - too much in the way of bells and whistles, and with McCartney calling most of the shots, too much tweeness in places. There's nothing on Forever Changes any better than A day in the life, She's leaving home, Within you without you or Strawberry Fields IMO, and if it's ahead of its time you're after then Tomorrow never knows, which pre-dates both albums by a year, knocks everything else out of the park.
Your last sentence I won't bother with cos it's just bollocks
 
Cannot stand pepper.My least favourite Beatles album.
Apart from A day in the life I don't like anything else on it.
 
Cannot stand pepper.My least favourite Beatles album.
Apart from A day in the life I don't like anything else on it.
My favourite tracks are Within you & Without You , Lucy, ADITL and the Title track, Paul's vocal on those opening lines.....It was 20 years ago today....is magnificent, just enough raunchiness
 
Cannot stand pepper.My least favourite Beatles album.
Apart from A day in the life I don't like anything else on it.

I know what you mean. Apart from Yellow Submarine, which is only really half an album, it's probably my least favourite as well for the reasons stated in my earlier posts, albeit that it still contains A Day In The Life and She's Leaving Home, arguably the best song McCartney ever wrote. Considering they rehearsed early versions of Jealous Guy, Gimme Some Truth, All Things Must Pass and Maybe I'm Amazed during the Let It Be sessions, and actually recorded Come And Get It, I've always found the Let It Be album to be a bit disappointing too (Dig A Pony, Dig It, Maggie Mae and One After 909 are all little more than filler), but they were squabbling so much by that stage it's probably not a surprise.
Rubber Soul and Revolver are unquestionably their best, but I've always loved their debut album Please Please Me. Simple stuff to play, but fresh as a daisy every time
 
We'll agree to disagree on those eight songs you've listed

Ha, ha, ha.

I wouldn't call myself a Beatles fan, although I have several albums and have seen McCartney in concert a few times (even saw Ringo once), and I certainly don't share EB's view that they are the greatest band ever but I'm astonished that anyone could not appreciate how good those eight songs are. Insidiously catchy little devils that simply lodge in your brain if you grew up with them.
 
I know what you mean. Apart from Yellow Submarine, which is only really half an album, it's probably my least favourite as well for the reasons stated in my earlier posts, albeit that it still contains A Day In The Life and She's Leaving Home, arguably the best song McCartney ever wrote. Considering they rehearsed early versions of Jealous Guy, Gimme Some Truth, All Things Must Pass and Maybe I'm Amazed during the Let It Be sessions, and actually recorded Come And Get It, I've always found the Let It Be album to be a bit disappointing too (Dig A Pony, Dig It, Maggie Mae and One After 909 are all little more than filler), but they were squabbling so much by that stage it's probably not a surprise.
Rubber Soul and Revolver are unquestionably their best, but I've always loved their debut album Please Please Me. Simple stuff to play, but fresh as a daisy every time
I love the sound of pepper
I distinctly remember that day 50 years ago when my big brother came home with it on the day of it's release
It was Summertime and the whole thing was a mass of colour filled with summery songs like Lucy......Cellophane flowers and Marmalade skies, it seemed to open up your mind, it was like nothing we'd ever heard before
Hard to imagine now of course
But it was magnificent.

After Revolver the Beatles delivered yet again.

I still love it.

If only Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever where on it as they should've been.
 
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Cannot stand pepper.My least favourite Beatles album.
Apart from A day in the life I don't like anything else on it.
Interestingly the Stones veered in a similar direction with Satanic Majesties Request and many Stones fans (including me) judge that as their least favourite
 
Interestingly the Stones veered in a similar direction with Satanic Majesties Request and many Stones fans (including me) judge that as their least favourite
Agree but the Stones followed SMR with Beggars Banquet.Let it Bleed.Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main St with a great live album thrown inbetween.
In my opinion the best run of lps ever produced.
 
Can't be doing with these "Beatles were crap" statements.
The band had virtually everything. They are not my favourites as I don't actually like them much as people but as showmen and innovators they are superb.
 
I am currently playing side 2 of Abbey Road on vinyl, I urge you all to do the same now, go on....
 
I love the sound of pepper
I distinctly remember that day 50 years ago when my big brother came home with it on the day of it's release
It was Summertime and the whole thing was a mass of colour filled with summery songs like Lucy......Cellophane flowers and Marmalade skies, it seemed to open up your mind, it was like nothing we'd ever heard before
Hard to imagine now of course
But it was magnificent.

After Revolver the Beatles delivered yet again.

I still love it.

If only Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields Forever where on it as they should've been.

I said the same thing on the Pepper thread last month. If Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane had been on it, as was intended, at the expense of say Lovely Rita and Good Morning, Good Morning, then I think it would have stood alongside Rubber Soul and Revolver as being timelessly brilliant.

I fully understand its importance and I totally get the generational thing whereby if you were suddenly exposed to this brilliant kaleidoscope of sound, it would resonate with you forever, but I'm of the next generation and only first listened to it in 1978 when I was 14. Don't get me wrong I still think it's great - She's Leaving Home is probably my all time favourite McCartney track - but the dog whistles, chopped up hurdy gurdy tapes and so forth have the effect of dating it a little IMO. Plus I always thought they operated best when Lennon held the whip hand or operated with McCartney as an equal. When the latter got control I always felt there was an urge to venture into tweeness or sentimentality - Lovely Rita, When I'm 64, Mystery Tour, Martha My Dear, Ob la di, Lennon hated the whole damn lot. Of course that could just be complete bollocks on my part!
 
This a funny old world
I Want You, is my favourite track on Abbey Rd

Yep it's a really good album, my son's favourite but he gets really annoyed that they plonked Her Majesty at the end after 'The End', makes me smile.

I just read somewhere that I Want You was the last time they all recorded together.
 
If 11 consecutive no.1 singles in the UK including 'She loves you', 'I want to hold your hand', 'I feel fine', 'Day Tripper', 'We can work it out', A hard day's night', A ticket to ride' and 'Help', some of the catchiest choons ever written, not to mention occupying the no.1 slot in the album's chart for 51 of the 52 weeks of 1963 is evidence of their crapness, then yeh they were crap alright!
Oh and they were always on drugs, right back to October 1960 when they shovelled down Preludin tablets by the bucketload to get them through their arduous 8 hours a night, 7 days a week, 3 month stint in Hamburg.
The greatest band ever by an epic margin, from start to finish

Great post.

They are simply the greatest and best ever, by some margin.

I despair for people who don't like it, their ears must be broken.
 
Not great musicians bar perhaps George on guitar to a point.

Great music , great song writers bar Ringo , they will be playing Yesterday , Hide Your Love Away , Shes Leaving Home and Dear Prudence to name but four when we inhabit Mars to continue the human race which is the best way I think to sum them up.

If music takes you through the full spectrum of emotions we have crafted since coming to this planet then the Beatles along with many others achieve that.

There is little point comparing them to others but Rubenstein said She's Leaving Home was the best piece of music he had heard and Sinatra said something similar about Something.

That gives you some idea about how their music carried into the hearts and minds of others who were genius's at their particular craft.

Cat Stevens is still my favourite songwriter but as a group I listen to the Beatles as much as I do Led Zepp , Bad Company , Metallica , Collective Soul and Aussie bands like the Masters Apprentices and Country Radio.
 

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