The bent referee - complain.

He was the worst ref I've seen for long time, and just think he is clearly out of his depth. Its not the first match in which he has been accused of shit refereeing. This is the problem with fast tracked referees. The main problem was simply the level of in-consistency with the free kicks being awarded and bookings being dished out.

No impartial assesor in the stand could possible think that gain was refereed well.

Also why didn't we get a penalty when Dzeko was clearly held down in the first half which the referee had a clear view of the offence.
 
ban-mcfc said:
Judge Roughneck said:
ban-mcfc said:
1. learnt to quote properly, saves confusion.

2. to be corrupt is to not have a fair game in mind and to favour one team over another, it has nothing to do with money. this guy clearly had an agenda against city today, i'm not saying he had accepted pay checks (he might have though), what i'm saying is one way or another this **** wanted us to lose/draw today.

1.I did quote properly, You just edited your post with the Balotelli comment at the same time I pressed send.

2.Got any proof of that? On the balance of probabilities I would just say Attwell was crap.

i didn't edit my post at all,

and yes he was crap but i've seen the likes of clattenburg (who is fair but just wank) get big decisions wrong but this **** takes it to an all new level, did you go to the game today? every fan i spoke to coming out of the ground were saying the same thing, that they thought he was genuinely cheating against us.

and i share that opinion, it wasn't just the odd thing here and there it was nearly everything.

Yes, I did go to the game. And yes I thought the referee was shite. But what I don't share is the allegation that he was CORRUPT or BENT. I think he was a referee out of his depth.
 
Corruption and 'bias' are not quite the same thing.

In my opinion Atwell may well have been overcompensating for some 'perceived' view of City in some way. The usual prejudice we all suffer from in some form or another.

Either that we are divers, a bit dirty, use our strength a bit too much etc etc.


ALL of that said, it's a professional referee's job to be impartial (as much as possible) to that, and to be aware of his own potential bias.

Using the term 'corrupt' is highly questionable and potentially subject to legal recourse, so best to avoid using it.

In my honest opinion, he simply had a lousy game and the more we complained, the more he let his feelings cloud his judgment. Call it stubborn / obstinate etc. But whichever way you cut it, it certainly looked inconsistent, and outside the realm of 'credible' error.
 
cibaman said:
Clevers said:
I don't think he was corrupt just inept.

To be corrupt requires a degree of intelligence with which I do not credit him.

I certainly dont think he was corrupt, but possibly he got himself into a mindset of "everyone hates me I dont care". He seemed determined to prove himself to be a strong referee, not influenced by the crowd, not influenced by the home players.

I think you're mistaken. He's as bent as a spoon I uri gellers kitchen draw.
 
I had 3 text messages from friends after the match, one rag, one Liverpool and one Rochdale supporter, and each one of them said that the ref was a disgrace and two said that the pundits (not sure which) had said that he was very poor.

Like others I would not say he was corrupt but he was definitely biased toward the visiting team. There were quite a few occasions when he gave a foul to them when seconds earlier he had ignored fouls against us. How he didn't give a foul or even a yellow card when their player kicked Edin on the knee I do not know. You could practically hear his boot hit Edin from where I was sitting on the front row!!

And the way their players were holding on to Edin (& other players) I thought they were auditioning for Strictly Come Dancing!! But neither the ref nor the linesman on the dug out side gave anything!! They were disgraceful.
 
I would hope complaints wouldn't be necessary after that performance. Surely the FA must have taken notice of it and will take matters further.

Refereeing like we saw today really destroys the beauty of the PL.
 
Shocking performance. Graham Poll would have been proud of some of the shit decisions he gave against us today.
 
I have only just calmed down reading all this has brought it back I have never been so angry I kept getting thoughts in my head about running on the pitch and smacking the cheating bastard he had me so wound up ended falling out with the stewards on the way out
 
to quote my own blog

Atwell...at least we won!
Manchester City 3 Wolves 1 doesn't really tell the story of a game ruined by a referee clearly out of his depth. Stuart Atwell (he of the phantom goal fame) turned in quite possibly the most inept and incompetent performance I've ever seen in 26 years of attending football matches.

You can understand a referee making one or two bad calls in a game but Atwell made so many I lost count. During the first half of every 50-50 challenge resulting in a free kick to Wolves (Matchday centre on the City website shows 18 fouls by City to Wolves 6 in total) This lead to Vincent Kompany questioning what was going on in his role as captain There were some challenges of equal force made on City players only for play on to be the decision. Apparently throttling a player is ok...well as long as you are Mr Stearman of Wolves as he did to Edin Dzeko in what should have been a penalty to City. Half time came with a chorus of boos ringing out directed at the official.

The second half started well for City going 2-0 up and it must have been eating at Atwell he hadn't be centre of attention for 15-20 minutes as suddenly the decisions started again. The strangest had to be when a Wolves player climbed all over sub Mario Balotelli was apparently a foul by Mario who was stood still as he was being held...no apparently he backed in.

To be fair to Mr Atwell the decision of penalty and red card for Kompany were spot on. However just before Yaya Toure was fouled he then went into a challenge which resulted in a free kick for Wolves an obviously frustrated Toure screamed out his disgust at the decision. we've all heard and understand the "Respect" campaign but seriously?? respect should be earned by at least having officials who are competent and able to do the job sadly Stuart Atwell simply isn't up to the job and could have cost Manchester City vital points today. It's also lucky David Silva wasn't seriously hurt by some of the challenges that were dished out (none of which were punished) As luck would have it a great strike by Adam Johnson sealed the points for City late on but surely the FA or Premier League will have to act and remove this joker from it's lists he isn't fit to referee a WWE No Disqualification match (there are no rules) he'd still get it wrong!
 
the classic was Balo standing there and letting a Wolves player climb all over him to the point he fell over the top and he gave the foul to Wolves for fecks sake!!!!!

The most biassed ref'ing (either deliberately or not) I've seen in a long time
 
nwhn3 said:
Also why didn't we get a penalty when Dzeko was clearly held down in the first half which the referee had a clear view of the offence.
On p.95 (section 44(b)Non-actionable physical contact) of "Atwell's Laws of The Game", pub. Hang Zhu and Sons, Shanghai 2010, it reads, "There are times when a standing headlock or attempted standing headlock with or without pull-back is considered fair run of play and players give their implied consent when entering the field of play: as a Premier League referee you are expected to determine the times wisely."
 
Sigh said:
nwhn3 said:
Also why didn't we get a penalty when Dzeko was clearly held down in the first half which the referee had a clear view of the offence.
On p.95 (section 44(b)Non-actionable physical contact) of "Atwell's Laws of The Game", pub. Hang Zhu and Sons, Shanghai 2010, it reads, "There are times when a standing headlock or attempted standing headlock with or without pull-back is considered fair run of play and players give their implied consent when entering the field of play: as a Premier League referee you are expected to determine the times wisely."

Would be funny if it's wasn't accurate!
 
DTeacher said:
Judge Roughneck said:
DTeacher said:
Did I say you didn't?

You also insinuate that Edin DID handball it by stating that Attwell didn't spot it too. Maybe you should be certain before jumping in all guns blazing....little doubt who the 'birdbrain' is here.

So insinuating something is jumping in with all guns blazing is it? I didn't insinuate anything, I said what I said, it looked LIKE Edin MAY have handballed it, to ME at the TIME. Grow up you ****.


Go back and read where you wrote about Attwell not spotting the handball.

Pretty clear who the abuser is here - no point debating anything with you, if that's your petty attitude. Guess you have to resort to insults rather than admitting when you are wrong - says quite a lot about you to be honest.

Right, you pushed my buttons with your semantics. I apologise for the insults.
Bottom Line: The ref was rubbish. I don't think he was corrupt. I think Edin may have used his upper arm to control the ball (I may be wrong). I'm glad the officials didn't. I'm glad we won.
 
Bluemoonbaldboy said:
to quote my own blog

Atwell...at least we won!
Manchester City 3 Wolves 1 doesn't really tell the story of a game ruined by a referee clearly out of his depth. Stuart Atwell (he of the phantom goal fame) turned in quite possibly the most inept and incompetent performance I've ever seen in 26 years of attending football matches.

You can understand a referee making one or two bad calls in a game but Atwell made so many I lost count. During the first half of every 50-50 challenge resulting in a free kick to Wolves (Matchday centre on the City website shows 18 fouls by City to Wolves 6 in total) This lead to Vincent Kompany questioning what was going on in his role as captain There were some challenges of equal force made on City players only for play on to be the decision. Apparently throttling a player is ok...well as long as you are Mr Stearman of Wolves as he did to Edin Dzeko in what should have been a penalty to City. Half time came with a chorus of boos ringing out directed at the official.

The second half started well for City going 2-0 up and it must have been eating at Atwell he hadn't be centre of attention for 15-20 minutes as suddenly the decisions started again. The strangest had to be when a Wolves player climbed all over sub Mario Balotelli was apparently a foul by Mario who was stood still as he was being held...no apparently he backed in.

To be fair to Mr Atwell the decision of penalty and red card for Kompany were spot on. However just before Yaya Toure was fouled he then went into a challenge which resulted in a free kick for Wolves an obviously frustrated Toure screamed out his disgust at the decision. we've all heard and understand the "Respect" campaign but seriously?? respect should be earned by at least having officials who are competent and able to do the job sadly Stuart Atwell simply isn't up to the job and could have cost Manchester City vital points today. It's also lucky David Silva wasn't seriously hurt by some of the challenges that were dished out (none of which were punished) As luck would have it a great strike by Adam Johnson sealed the points for City late on but surely the FA or Premier League will have to act and remove this joker from it's lists he isn't fit to referee a WWE No Disqualification match (there are no rules) he'd still get it wrong!

SPOT ON
 
As for the FA doing something?

Since when has the FA done anything other than try to defend refs - because failure to do so would effectively cause chaos.

They would rather let a poor ref carry on being poor than give ANY rise to the fact that some refs need to improve, significantly.

For all the FA's moaning about FIFA, they exhibit many of the same characteristics - blinkered, inept and a law unto themselves.
 
DiscoSteve said:
the classic was Balo standing there and letting a Wolves player climb all over him to the point he fell over the top and he gave the foul to Wolves for fecks sake!!!!!

The most biassed ref'ing (either deliberately or not) I've seen in a long time

i'll be honest.

i didn't get annoyed at that moment.

i sat and laughed it was that bad, seriously.
 
hgblue said:
The club should complain. Nothing will be done, but it will mark his card if he ever refs us again. If we'd have been playing a top team today we'd have lost.

exactly what I said to my dad, no disrespect to Wolves they gave us a good game but up against better quality with that ref in charge we would of been hepless to do anything about it...... possibly the worst ref performance I've seen past 2 seasons that was even worse then Atkinson's vs Everton few seasons back
 

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