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I bet you were made up when this thread appearednimrod said:
Have you ever said one positive thing on this forum abt this country
Oh and Carindale is a shithole.
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The Best Country In The World
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Have you ever said one positive thing on this forum abt this country
Oh and Carindale is a shithole.
supercity88
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nimrod said:kinkladz-ade said:I put it to you fellow bluemooners that us English folk live in the best country in the world.
This is something I firmly believe and after reading about the conversations about national pride/patriotism in the St George's Day thread I thought I would start this thread to see if people agree.
Reasons why I believe this:
1. England/UK is one of the most culturally diverse, accepting and tolerant countries. I myself am an immigrant, my family moved here when I was twelve but growing up and my whole adult life I have never felt like an outsider. Most people really do not see skin colour here.
2. The NHS and free school education. Having lived in a few other countries where there is no health service I feel passionately about our greatest institution the NHS and would march on London to protect it.
3. Real natural beauty: The countryside, hills, lakes, all the beautifully preserved historic sites.
4. Great culture: Music, sport, art, history, traditions, pubs.....
5. Weather isn't really that bad. We don't have extreme heat or cold weather, we don't get water/elec/gas shortages.
6. We don't get tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis (fingers crossed we never do)
7. No killer animals : poisones snakes/spiders, alligators or anything really that could kill you.
8. Good economy: If you work/study hard you can be successful. You have the chance to achieve your dreams
9. Low crime: We don't have real gun crime, gangs, or any huge amount of organised crime (that i know of).
10. Benefits: Having lived in countries where you either work or you starve. Having seen whole families that live in shantytowns, under bridges etc, I feel we do take care of our out of work/old folk etc. When people say 'poverty' in this country it really isn't even close to the level of poverty in say Africa/Asia
I could go on and on...... but will just finish with this ........
My uncle who spent his whole life in Pakistan came to visit England for the first time. I took him all around the UK and one day we were standing by a lake in the Peak District and he said to me "This country is just like how I have imagined heaven to be"
English and Proud!
You forgot to mention its full of chavs, always pissing it down and freezing and you probably need a gas fire on in June.
All countries have good and bad things about them, and some of the things you list Britain hasnt got the best of, for example No 3, tons of countries have much greater natural beauty than the UK, you dont have any mountain ranges of any height, you just have green rolling countryside, plenty of that in France, New Zealand to name but 2, but they have proper mountains as well.
No 6, I remember a hurricane in the 90's that ripped down the oak tree's in Sevenoaks, Kent and havent you guys just had really really bad floods ?? and what about when the river Don burst its banks about 5 years ago and half of Yorkshire was devastated with floods ?
No 2, Most western countries have free state education including America & Australia, the NHS is a shambles, I wouldnt trust it, My MIL died waiting for surgery, they said there was a queue and let her die at 68..........how long does it take you to get a doctors appointment, Ive read on here upwards of a week. We have a free health service here in Oz called Medicare.
Even if I moved back to the UK though I would pay for private health insurance, I just dont trust the NHS.
Ive lived in the UK, USA & Oz and I would say out of those 3 the USA is by far the best if your prepared to work hard for a living, next I would say Australia, which is fantastic blessed with a great climate (although unlike the UK, you can live in many different climates in Australia- yes we have mountains to ski on)
The USA is best cos it has really the lot AND everything is cheap, it used to be cheap here in Oz but now its like the UK in that everything costs a bastard fortune, except petrol, w UK petrol is the dearest in the world apparently, ours cost about half what your does.
Your houses in the UK are shite too, mostly small and joined on to other houses, whereas ours are mostly detached standing in there own land.
We have No 9 also, so does Canada, New Zealand & a host of other countries I could mention.
Basically if you work hard, in the USA or OZ (and Im sure Canada) I think you can have a lot more to show for it than you can in the UK.
Even in Europe you have THE worst quality of life..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/sep/29/uk-worst-quality-of-life-europe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/s ... ife-europe</a>
Ahhh but that is where you go wrong. You look too much at the facts and not enough at the person on the street. If you work hard in the US you will not get further than in the UK. In Australia you have about 25 million people in a country that is continent sized. You have few constraints that the UK has had to suffer and have benefitted, as has Canada, from the wisdom of the UK (as a former colony) that has implemented all of those things you take for granted. Whilst the NHS has its issues because of the number of people, rather than sell your house to fund an operation - see the US, you can get one. You may get one quicker in Australia or Canada but they are two culturally inadequate countries. I have lived in both and Australia has no culture. Australia is importing its culture from America, it has nothing historic in the same way that we have history. Your greatest institutions originate from the UK, as do those in Canada - so it is wrong to claim they are better than here. Both Canada and Australia are intolerant in the wider population, to immigrants. We are much more accepting. We have a better sense of humour, a better culture and have provided the greatest people who have walked on this earth. You cannot be proud of Canada or Australia without thanking us for colonising and developing both with the foundations that you benefit from today.
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dronefromsector7g
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I loved Australia and it's got a lot of beauty, and there's real variety in that respect, but something doesn't sit right when you go to the town centre of Darwin or Alice Springs and see dozens of strung-out Aboriginals lying on the floor huffing gas. Makes Manchester's homeless population seem tiny in comparison.
waterloo blue
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Something you want to get off your chest,Undies?.blue underpants said:Not as bad now its slowly improving, know a Blue who lives in Kalamata on the mainland he loves it, the Islands are fabulous, i would live on Crete or Mykonos tomorrow given the chanceBoyBlue_1985 said:Economic woesblue underpants said:Greece pisses all over this country, it might have it's economic woes but it is a fabulous country with great people, i would be living there now if it wasn't for the Mrs
Fucking understatement of the century, mainland Greece is like a 3rd world country now
Why Always Ste
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To have a best, we would have a worst and for me most countries have stains on their own clean cloth of history. They're all just as good and just as bad as each other.
blueish swede
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blue underpants said:Greece pisses all over this country, it might have it's economic woes but it is a fabulous country with great people, i would be living there now if it wasn't for the Mrs
Does she live there, then?
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blueish swede said:blue underpants said:Greece pisses all over this country, it might have it's economic woes but it is a fabulous country with great people, i would be living there now if it wasn't for the Mrs
Does she live there, then?
hehehehe.
Blue Til Death
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No doubt about it England wins hands down every time.. !
pominoz
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supercity88 said:nimrod said:kinkladz-ade said:I put it to you fellow bluemooners that us English folk live in the best country in the world.
This is something I firmly believe and after reading about the conversations about national pride/patriotism in the St George's Day thread I thought I would start this thread to see if people agree.
Reasons why I believe this:
1. England/UK is one of the most culturally diverse, accepting and tolerant countries. I myself am an immigrant, my family moved here when I was twelve but growing up and my whole adult life I have never felt like an outsider. Most people really do not see skin colour here.
2. The NHS and free school education. Having lived in a few other countries where there is no health service I feel passionately about our greatest institution the NHS and would march on London to protect it.
3. Real natural beauty: The countryside, hills, lakes, all the beautifully preserved historic sites.
4. Great culture: Music, sport, art, history, traditions, pubs.....
5. Weather isn't really that bad. We don't have extreme heat or cold weather, we don't get water/elec/gas shortages.
6. We don't get tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis (fingers crossed we never do)
7. No killer animals : poisones snakes/spiders, alligators or anything really that could kill you.
8. Good economy: If you work/study hard you can be successful. You have the chance to achieve your dreams
9. Low crime: We don't have real gun crime, gangs, or any huge amount of organised crime (that i know of).
10. Benefits: Having lived in countries where you either work or you starve. Having seen whole families that live in shantytowns, under bridges etc, I feel we do take care of our out of work/old folk etc. When people say 'poverty' in this country it really isn't even close to the level of poverty in say Africa/Asia
I could go on and on...... but will just finish with this ........
My uncle who spent his whole life in Pakistan came to visit England for the first time. I took him all around the UK and one day we were standing by a lake in the Peak District and he said to me "This country is just like how I have imagined heaven to be"
English and Proud!
You forgot to mention its full of chavs, always pissing it down and freezing and you probably need a gas fire on in June.
All countries have good and bad things about them, and some of the things you list Britain hasnt got the best of, for example No 3, tons of countries have much greater natural beauty than the UK, you dont have any mountain ranges of any height, you just have green rolling countryside, plenty of that in France, New Zealand to name but 2, but they have proper mountains as well.
No 6, I remember a hurricane in the 90's that ripped down the oak tree's in Sevenoaks, Kent and havent you guys just had really really bad floods ?? and what about when the river Don burst its banks about 5 years ago and half of Yorkshire was devastated with floods ?
No 2, Most western countries have free state education including America & Australia, the NHS is a shambles, I wouldnt trust it, My MIL died waiting for surgery, they said there was a queue and let her die at 68..........how long does it take you to get a doctors appointment, Ive read on here upwards of a week. We have a free health service here in Oz called Medicare.
Even if I moved back to the UK though I would pay for private health insurance, I just dont trust the NHS.
Ive lived in the UK, USA & Oz and I would say out of those 3 the USA is by far the best if your prepared to work hard for a living, next I would say Australia, which is fantastic blessed with a great climate (although unlike the UK, you can live in many different climates in Australia- yes we have mountains to ski on)
The USA is best cos it has really the lot AND everything is cheap, it used to be cheap here in Oz but now its like the UK in that everything costs a bastard fortune, except petrol, w UK petrol is the dearest in the world apparently, ours cost about half what your does.
Your houses in the UK are shite too, mostly small and joined on to other houses, whereas ours are mostly detached standing in there own land.
We have No 9 also, so does Canada, New Zealand & a host of other countries I could mention.
Basically if you work hard, in the USA or OZ (and Im sure Canada) I think you can have a lot more to show for it than you can in the UK.
Even in Europe you have THE worst quality of life..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/sep/29/uk-worst-quality-of-life-europe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/s ... ife-europe</a>
Ahhh but that is where you go wrong. You look too much at the facts and not enough at the person on the street. If you work hard in the US you will not get further than in the UK. In Australia you have about 25 million people in a country that is continent sized. You have few constraints that the UK has had to suffer and have benefitted, as has Canada, from the wisdom of the UK (as a former colony) that has implemented all of those things you take for granted. Whilst the NHS has its issues because of the number of people, rather than sell your house to fund an operation - see the US, you can get one. You may get one quicker in Australia or Canada but they are two culturally inadequate countries. I have lived in both and Australia has no culture. Australia is importing its culture from America, it has nothing historic in the same way that we have history. Your greatest institutions originate from the UK, as do those in Canada - so it is wrong to claim they are better than here. Both Canada and Australia are intolerant in the wider population, to immigrants. We are much more accepting. We have a better sense of humour, a better culture and have provided the greatest people who have walked on this earth. You cannot be proud of Canada or Australia without thanking us for colonising and developing both with the foundations that you benefit from today.
Biggest load of bollocks i have read on here for a long time, well done.