The Boxing thread

[Davs 19]

Of course; it is a Bluemoon forte to dismiss anything/anyone that is a success.

Give the lad a chance eh before dismissing him. When he's been beaten as many times as Hatton or Khan, then suggest he's not top level.

When he climbs in the ring with the calibre of fighter Hatton regularly did I'll listen to you.


You can have Khan though ;.)

He hasn't earned that right, yet, to enter the ring with the fighters Hatton did, but he might. No point in folk attempting to discredit his achievements so far, which is what we have seen on here tonight. It is, however, unfortunate the fight with Devon Alexander didn't materialise.

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

When he climbs in the ring with the calibre of fighter Hatton regularly did I'll listen to you.


You can have Khan though ;.)

He hasn't earned that right, yet, to enter the ring with the fighters Hatton did, but he might. No point in folk attempting to discredit his achievements so far, which is what we have seen on here tonight. It is, however, unfortunate the fight with Devon Alexander didn't materialise.

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

He needs to tighten up his defence, but he can dig, really dig. But needs to stop being an easy target which he can be. I am enjoying his journey, and as he's an Englishman and he's not brash and is likeable , I hope others can too.

 

[ono]

When he climbs in the ring with the calibre of fighter Hatton regularly did I'll listen to you.


You can have Khan though ;.)

He hasn't earned that right, yet, to enter the ring with the fighters Hatton did, but he might. No point in folk attempting to discredit his achievements so far, which is what we have seen on here tonight. It is, however, unfortunate the fight with Devon Alexander didn't materialise.

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

The problem he's got is that at 147, genuine world class unfortunately means he has to be able to mix it with the following

Mayweather
Bradley
Marquez
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Broner
Alexander
Guerrero
Maidana

The nearly men in that division are also good

Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto.

I honestly don't remember a division being this talented since 140 had Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Tszyu, Corrales and Castillo in it. This actually eclipses it i'd say. He's obviously going down the IBF route and if he beats Alexander/Porter he could feasibly take on a fairly easy defence before getting a money fight against Khan, or actually even fighting a beatable name like Mosley or Malignaggi. One down the line for him will probably be Frankie Gavin if he can sort his act out. I don't envy him anyway,. It's going to take a monumental effort to become a force in that division.

 

[Wretched Vengeance]

He hasn't earned that right, yet, to enter the ring with the fighters Hatton did, but he might. No point in folk attempting to discredit his achievements so far, which is what we have seen on here tonight. It is, however, unfortunate the fight with Devon Alexander didn't materialise.

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

The problem he's got is that at 147, genuine world class unfortunately means he has to be able to mix it with the following

Mayweather
Bradley
Marquez
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Broner
Alexander
Guerrero
Maidana

The nearly men in that division are also good

Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto.

I honestly don't remember a division being this talented since 140 had Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Tszyu, Corrales and Castillo in it. This actually eclipses it i'd say. He's obviously going down the IBF route and if he beats Alexander/Porter he could feasibly take on a fairly easy defence before getting a money fight against Khan, or actually even fighting a beatable name like Mosley or Malignaggi. One down the line for him will probably be Frankie Gavin if he can sort his act out. I don't envy him anyway,. It's going to take a monumental effort to become a force in that division.

I think Kell would leather Malignaggi. But the rest, you are right, one hell of a division at the moment, full of talent.

 

[conormcfc]

Brook did what he was supposed to do, Senchenko is nothing special. Let's see him step up the competition now.

Hopkins won again. Fountain of youth that bloke.

 

[Ell-ano]

Brook did what he was supposed to do, Senchenko is nothing special. Let's see him step up the competition now.

Hopkins won again. Fountain of youth that bloke.

yeah he shouldn't avoid any of the bigger ones, fight Alexander and Broner, maybe Marquez if he's still going and then on to Mayweather

 

[oman0115]

He hasn't earned that right, yet, to enter the ring with the fighters Hatton did, but he might. No point in folk attempting to discredit his achievements so far, which is what we have seen on here tonight. It is, however, unfortunate the fight with Devon Alexander didn't materialise.

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

The problem he's got is that at 147, genuine world class unfortunately means he has to be able to mix it with the following

Mayweather
Bradley
Marquez
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Broner
Alexander
Guerrero
Maidana

The nearly men in that division are also good

Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto.

I honestly don't remember a division being this talented since 140 had Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Tszyu, Corrales and Castillo in it. This actually eclipses it i'd say. He's obviously going down the IBF route and if he beats Alexander/Porter he could feasibly take on a fairly easy defence before getting a money fight against Khan, or actually even fighting a beatable name like Mosley or Malignaggi. One down the line for him will probably be Frankie Gavin if he can sort his act out. I don't envy him anyway,. It's going to take a monumental effort to become a force in that division.

That's a good point and a stacked division he's in! I worry about his mental side more than anything, his camp keep eluding to how he nearly quit, how he thought his career was over. After the first Jones fight he blamed his diet. He's an anxious looking guy to me. I remeber Danny Williams having that about him, loads of talent but his head was right, injuries aside you've got to say they're taking a long time progressing Kell, there might be a reason behind that!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

That's a fair point and I wish the lad all the best. I think he's a bit short of genuine world class. Love to be proved wrong though...

The problem he's got is that at 147, genuine world class unfortunately means he has to be able to mix it with the following

Mayweather
Bradley
Marquez
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Broner
Alexander
Guerrero
Maidana

The nearly men in that division are also good

Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto.

I honestly don't remember a division being this talented since 140 had Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Tszyu, Corrales and Castillo in it. This actually eclipses it i'd say. He's obviously going down the IBF route and if he beats Alexander/Porter he could feasibly take on a fairly easy defence before getting a money fight against Khan, or actually even fighting a beatable name like Mosley or Malignaggi. One down the line for him will probably be Frankie Gavin if he can sort his act out. I don't envy him anyway,. It's going to take a monumental effort to become a force in that division.

I think Kell would leather Malignaggi. But the rest, you are right, one hell of a division at the moment, full of talent.

Mallignaggi is someone I will never get. He seems a decent fighter but never good enough for 147 and yet somehow he has won titles, yet everytime I see him fight he gets leathered to feck.

 

[The Flash]

Found a good site with some classics on there. Watched Mayweather vs. Coralles the other night. The finest boxing performance I think I've ever seen. Mayweather at his brilliant best.

http://www.boxingonline.info/home

 

[conormcfc]

The problem he's got is that at 147, genuine world class unfortunately means he has to be able to mix it with the following

Mayweather
Bradley
Marquez
Pacquiao
Provodnikov
Broner
Alexander
Guerrero
Maidana

The nearly men in that division are also good

Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto.

I honestly don't remember a division being this talented since 140 had Hatton, Mayweather, Cotto, Tszyu, Corrales and Castillo in it. This actually eclipses it i'd say. He's obviously going down the IBF route and if he beats Alexander/Porter he could feasibly take on a fairly easy defence before getting a money fight against Khan, or actually even fighting a beatable name like Mosley or Malignaggi. One down the line for him will probably be Frankie Gavin if he can sort his act out. I don't envy him anyway,. It's going to take a monumental effort to become a force in that division.

I think Kell would leather Malignaggi. But the rest, you are right, one hell of a division at the moment, full of talent.

Mallignaggi is someone I will never get. He seems a decent fighter but never good enough for 147 and yet somehow he has won titles, yet everytime I see him fight he gets leathered to feck.

Broner didn't leather him. That fight was competitive.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

I think Kell would leather Malignaggi. But the rest, you are right, one hell of a division at the moment, full of talent.

Mallignaggi is someone I will never get. He seems a decent fighter but never good enough for 147 and yet somehow he has won titles, yet everytime I see him fight he gets leathered to feck.

Broner didn't leather him. That fight was competitive.

Key part was everytime I see him fight. Pretty sure I didnt watch the Broner fight

 

[leighton]

I like Kell Brook. I think he is a likeable fighter I think he will be a hit in the US no matter what. Even if he gets beaten by Alexander when they fight or whoever put up a good show in the US and he will get other big name fighters. I think he has a chance of winning a World title and Alexander is the only 1 I think Kell would be able to beat at the moment. Would love to see him do it as well. Love that Brendan Ingle gym and that Ringside speical was brilliant.

Sure no matter what happens big pay days around the corner for Kell. A fight with Khan now and my moneys on Kell to beat Khan. I think if Khan gets Money he is in only because both men are Promoted by Golden Boy, I think Golden Boy hopes Khan puts up a good show and they can keep him going. 1 more bad defeat and its good night Amir Khan.

Also SKy this weekend has a double header again. With the main event the brilliant power punching Gennady Golovkin who destroyed Matt Macklin in his last fight. Would love to see Money taking on Golovkin more than any other fighter but I think that would be a step too far for Money in the weights. So hopefully Golovkin fights Andre Ward or a Carl Froch fight or Serigo Marthinez some time next year.

 

[shevtheblue]

Kell brook sounds like a gay bo selecta character, I cant take him serious.

 

[conormcfc]

Did anyone else watch the Andre Ward fight? Let's just say it wasn't the best.

I doubt this guy will ever get any mainstream recognition. Too many of his fights bore me to tears and he doesn't have the cocky type personality to get away with it and get people to buy his fights.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Did anyone else watch the Andre Ward fight? Let's just say it wasn't the best.

I doubt this guy will ever get any mainstream recognition. Too many of his fights bore me to tears and he doesn't have the cocky type personality to get away with it and get people to buy his fights.

No I watched the DeGale fight and realised he probably wont ever be making it big. Battered the bloke in reality but realistically he needs to be putting guys like that away with knockouts

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

Did anyone else watch the Andre Ward fight? Let's just say it wasn't the best.

I doubt this guy will ever get any mainstream recognition. Too many of his fights bore me to tears and he doesn't have the cocky type personality to get away with it and get people to buy his fights.

No I watched the DeGale fight and realised he probably wont ever be making it big. Battered the bloke in reality but realistically he needs to be putting guys like that away with knockouts

Degale looked good for 5-6 rounds and then seemed to gas, if Davis had any power the straight right Degale took in the 7th would have put him away, or at least put him down, as it hit him flush and moving into the punch.

 

[bluesteve1964]

David Haye advised to retire following shoulder surgery. Fight with Tyson Fury off.
Bolt from the blue.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.hayemaker.com/news/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.hayemaker.com/news/</a>

 

[Mancini'sImaginaryCard]

Sad to hear that, was looking forward to Haye-Fury. Shame! Hope he enjoys retirement.

 

[Trevor morleys tash]

Won't be long before that bum fury is at it saying he didnt want to fight me and was scared.shame I was looking forward to haye smashing him

 

[bluesteve1964]

Won't be long before that bum fury is at it saying he didnt want to fight me and was scared.shame I was looking forward to haye smashing him

He's already calling Haye a pussy on Twitter.