The Boxing thread

[bell_mcfc]

he'll just do what Haye does, take a break, beat a couple of nobody's, say he's new and improved, get a big fight, lose, and repeat the process.

How many fights has Haye lost again?

Comparing amir 'fucking' khan to david haye now.... priceless!!!!!

both are not world class, both aren't good enough for the best of their division.

Hence why Haye is busy fighting Chisora and Fraudley as opposed to defending World Heavyweight titles.

So in that respect they are similar, and that's the only comparison I made, as opposed to your transfer forum translation.

You forget that Haye is a cruiser weight, and he actually went on to win a heavyweight belt. Infact when a cruiser weight he unified the division and was the best of that bunch, the reason he moved up. The reason he has to fight Chisora and even Harrison is because they found it increasingly difficult to get a fight with the Klitschko's, but when he had and if he gets another he will get beat because he's just not the right build to fight against them.

 

[bennyblue]

Best two heavy weights from these shores now are david price and tyson fury, haye was not impressive beating chisora nor would i of expected him to be either, be very surprised if vitali fought him although would certainly make plenty of dough, someone else suggested khan vs hatton jokingly, maybe more in that than anything else

 

[leighton]

Best two heavy weights from these shores now are david price and tyson fury, haye was not impressive beating chisora nor would i of expected him to be either, be very surprised if vitali fought him although would certainly make plenty of dough, someone else suggested khan vs hatton jokingly, maybe more in that than anything else

Tyson Fury holy fuck lol. I agree Price looks a good boxer but we have yet to see him being tagged or Fury for that at the highest level. Haye has shown he can take a shot at heavyweight even for Cruiserweight and still stand there. Also Hayes power is just too much for British level.
As for Haye beating Chisora the bloke was never stopped even Vitali couldnt stop him so it shows Hayes power is there. Haye is the top heavyweight in UK. Price will be a top heavyweight too and he is with the best promotor of heavyweights in Maloney he will do a Lewis with him and make shed loads of money if Price can take a shot. The Klitschkos wont go on forever and Price is a natural heavyweight. Fury on the other hand has been dropped in fights already against bums move him up and he will be dropped at the highest level.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

How many fights has Haye lost again?

Comparing amir 'fucking' khan to david haye now.... priceless!!!!!

both are not world class, both aren't good enough for the best of their division.

Hence why Haye is busy fighting Chisora and Fraudley as opposed to defending World Heavyweight titles.

So in that respect they are similar, and that's the only comparison I made, as opposed to your transfer forum translation.

You forget that Haye is a cruiser weight, and he actually went on to win a heavyweight belt. Infact when a cruiser weight he unified the division and was the best of that bunch, the reason he moved up. The reason he has to fight Chisora and even Harrison is because they found it increasingly difficult to get a fight with the Klitschko's, but when he had and if he gets another he will get beat because he's just not the right build to fight against them.

I haven't forgotten, but he's a heavyweight and wants to be judged as such at this time.

 

[conormcfc]

Haye beats Dereck Chisora and suddenly deserves another shot at a Klitschko. Comical.

 

[SuperKevinHorlock]

Best two heavy weights from these shores now are david price and tyson fury, haye was not impressive beating chisora nor would i of expected him to be either, be very surprised if vitali fought him although would certainly make plenty of dough, someone else suggested khan vs hatton jokingly, maybe more in that than anything else

Sorry I disagree thought Haye was very impressive against Chisora and did what neither Fury or Vitali could.

Personally I think Haye would beat the ageing Vitali.
As for Fury I have a lot of time for the lad unlike the vast majority on here but I genuinely feel Price is the best of the bunch(but only time will tell)

As for Khan his ego and chin have cost him as he has bags of boxing talent.

 

[jimharri]

Haye beats Dereck Chisora and suddenly deserves another shot at a Klitschko. Comical.

 

[leighton]

both are not world class, both aren't good enough for the best of their division.

Hence why Haye is busy fighting Chisora and Fraudley as opposed to defending World Heavyweight titles.

So in that respect they are similar, and that's the only comparison I made, as opposed to your transfer forum translation.

You forget that Haye is a cruiser weight, and he actually went on to win a heavyweight belt. Infact when a cruiser weight he unified the division and was the best of that bunch, the reason he moved up. The reason he has to fight Chisora and even Harrison is because they found it increasingly difficult to get a fight with the Klitschko's, but when he had and if he gets another he will get beat because he's just not the right build to fight against them.

I haven't forgotten, but he's a heavyweight and wants to be judged as such at this time.

Joe the weight he is giving up on other heavyweights is just crazy. In no other weight class would the weight difference be as big as that. You look at Money and Pacman moving up the weights all the time not a lot of difference compared with Hayes jump.
In my opinion to get the heavyweights back to were they belong they should bring back the Super Heavy weights again. I would love to see the glory days return but there is no way thats going to happen until they bring back the Super Heavy weight division.

 

[missing person]

Clarkies all over this thread, either that or a bit of education would'nt go a miss.

 

[leighton]

Conor bashing Haye again lol. Conor the Klitschkos know that the only fight that will sell for either of them is a Haye fight its the biggest money earner for either brother barring the 2 brothers fighting each other but that will never happen. Thats why Haye is needed by Vitali. Vitali might have 1 more fight 1 more big pay day before he retires a fight with Haye would be the biggest pay day for him than fighting some bum instead.

Oh and what did you make of Khan last night Conor???

 

[Rushton121]

I have to say, I do like watching Khan get twatted

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Khan got smashed again. I knew he would

You cant win if you aint got a chin! The first thing i was told when i went boxing training

Khan is delusional, goes into fights talking about his next fight. Always has an excuse when he loses, believes the ridiculous hype he receives.

You know your shit when Freddie Roach cant save you

 

[ImAwesome]

Haye's not good enough for the top of the division? No hes not good enough for the Klitschko's. He is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world whether you like him or not, saying Fury is better than Haye must be the joke of the year. The closest thing to Haye and the Klitschko's is David Price, Adamek, Povetkin and a fairly unknown aussie called Lucas Browne and they are a all a long way back.

 

[conormcfc]

Conor bashing Haye again lol. Conor the Klitschkos know that the only fight that will sell for either of them is a Haye fight its the biggest money earner for either brother barring the 2 brothers fighting each other but that will never happen. Thats why Haye is needed by Vitali. Vitali might have 1 more fight 1 more big pay day before he retires a fight with Haye would be the biggest pay day for him than fighting some bum instead.

Oh and what did you make of Khan last night Conor???

Any fight that the Klitschko's have will sell for them. They sell out stadiums wherever they fight. Neither of them need Haye, it's very much the other way round. I'm not getting why you think Haye is this huge draw anyway, sky box office fucked him off cos his numbers were poor and he struggled to sell about 40% of Upton Park out even with the hype behind that 'grudge match'.

I don't want to see Haye get another payday and be dominated once again, I'd much rather see someone else more deserving get the shot like Povetkin, Price or even Fury. At least Fury would have a go.


Khan looked classy for 3 rounds, made Garcia look amateur at times before being caught with a hayemaker. His chin is obviously poor so he wasn't able to recover between rounds. If he could've recovered quicker he probably would've began to control the fight once more but hey, that's Boxing. One punch can change a fight.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Haye's not good enough for the top of the division? No hes not good enough for the Klitschko's. He is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world whether you like him or not, saying Fury is better than Haye must be the joke of the year. The closest thing to Haye and the Klitschko's is David Price, Adamek, Povetkin and a fairly unknown aussie called Lucas Browne and they are a all a long way back.

Adamek got destroyed by Vitali. I always thought him v Haye would be a cracker. That would basically be a Cruiserweight fight though

 

[leighton]

Can anyone tell me when the last time a Klitschko headlined a World title fight in Vegas??? I think Wlad was 2008 and Vit was 2009 says how bad the heavyweight division has got if they havnt headlined a show in the US. But for Vegas I think it could well be even longer wow just checked it the 2 brothers boxed in Vegas in 2004 8 years ago holy fuck you know its bad when no one in the US wants to see you fighting.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Can anyone tell me when the last time a Klitschko headlined a World title fight in Vegas??? I think Wlad was 2008 and Vit was 2009 says how bad the heavyweight division has got if they havnt headlined a show in the US. But for Vegas I think it could well be even longer wow just checked it the 2 brothers boxed in Vegas in 2004 8 years ago holy fuck you know its bad when no one in the US wants to see you fighting.

I remember Golden Boy tried to promote Vitali to the US but he was too boring and after a couple of fights people stopped turning up. These 2 have killed heavyweight boxing. Although it was always going to happen when Lewis went

 

[Corky]

Can anyone tell me when the last time a Klitschko headlined a World title fight in Vegas??? I think Wlad was 2008 and Vit was 2009 says how bad the heavyweight division has got if they havnt headlined a show in the US. But for Vegas I think it could well be even longer wow just checked it the 2 brothers boxed in Vegas in 2004 8 years ago holy fuck you know its bad when no one in the US wants to see you fighting.

Europeans dominate Heavy Weight boxing so the big fights are in Europe.

Sell out a football stadium in Europe or a hotel in the US?

I prefer boxing not at 4 or 5 am.

 

[leighton]

Conor bashing Haye again lol. Conor the Klitschkos know that the only fight that will sell for either of them is a Haye fight its the biggest money earner for either brother barring the 2 brothers fighting each other but that will never happen. Thats why Haye is needed by Vitali. Vitali might have 1 more fight 1 more big pay day before he retires a fight with Haye would be the biggest pay day for him than fighting some bum instead.

Oh and what did you make of Khan last night Conor???

Any fight that the Klitschko's have will sell for them. They sell out stadiums wherever they fight. Neither of them need Haye, it's very much the other way round. I'm not getting why you think Haye is this huge draw anyway, sky box office fucked him off cos his numbers were poor and he struggled to sell about 40% of Upton Park out even with the hype behind that 'grudge match'.

I don't want to see Haye get another payday and be dominated once again, I'd much rather see someone else more deserving get the shot like Povetkin, Price or even Fury. At least Fury would have a go.


Khan looked classy for 3 rounds, made Garcia look amateur at times before being caught with a hayemaker. His chin is obviously poor so he wasn't able to recover between rounds. If he could've recovered quicker he probably would've began to control the fight once more but hey, that's Boxing. One punch can change a fight.

Regarding Sky it wasnt because of Haye they dropped PPV. lol. Fuck all people were buying PPV because most people were finding it hard with the on going recession. Dont forget Warren tried it with the Super 6 didnt sell and Hayes fights. Haye is a great promotor of his fights you cant knock him for that as he does sell tickets. Fuck me for the Valuez fight were he won the Heavyweight title he was on every single show trying to sell that PPV and did it and got decent numbers. As I said earlier Haye v Wlad was the worst I have seen Haye in years fighting. No spring in his step nothing at all didnt look like his explosive self that night. Look at him last night he still has it. A fight with Vitali could be made even Adam Booth has said it time and time again they keep changing the contract all the time.

As for Khan whenever Garica landed on Khan it caused him problems. Khan the boxer would of won that fight. I am shocked Freddie Roach didnt get him to box Garcia at range as he would of won the fight if he did that. Getting into a war with a fighter who is strong with both hands is just madness. Khan was lucky to get out of the 3rd round. Bayless is a top class ref but I was shocked he let him go on. Khan brought up weight issues before the fight so if he is planing a move up in the weight I would fear for him. He should stay were he is for the time being until he can no longer make the weight.

Can anyone tell me when the last time a Klitschko headlined a World title fight in Vegas??? I think Wlad was 2008 and Vit was 2009 says how bad the heavyweight division has got if they havnt headlined a show in the US. But for Vegas I think it could well be even longer wow just checked it the 2 brothers boxed in Vegas in 2004 8 years ago holy fuck you know its bad when no one in the US wants to see you fighting.

I remember Golden Boy tried to promote Vitali to the US but he was too boring and after a couple of fights people stopped turning up. These 2 have killed heavyweight boxing. Although it was always going to happen when Lewis went

Correct since Lewis and Evandar Holyfield retired or lost the sparkle the heavyweight boxing in the US has gone to shit.

 

[bell_mcfc]

You forget that Haye is a cruiser weight, and he actually went on to win a heavyweight belt. Infact when a cruiser weight he unified the division and was the best of that bunch, the reason he moved up. The reason he has to fight Chisora and even Harrison is because they found it increasingly difficult to get a fight with the Klitschko's, but when he had and if he gets another he will get beat because he's just not the right build to fight against them.

I haven't forgotten, but he's a heavyweight and wants to be judged as such at this time.

Joe the weight he is giving up on other heavyweights is just crazy. In no other weight class would the weight difference be as big as that. You look at Money and Pacman moving up the weights all the time not a lot of difference compared with Hayes jump.
In my opinion to get the heavyweights back to were they belong they should bring back the Super Heavy weights again. I would love to see the glory days return but there is no way thats going to happen until they bring back the Super Heavy weight division.

I have to agree here, the weight and reach he is giving up on is just too much, yet he still beat experienced heavyweights like, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora. So when judging him in the heavyweight division he is the 3rd best. Vitali had to go to 12 rounds with Chisora so that shows Haye is no bad fighter.

As a boxing fan, i'll be honest I only really bother with the heavweight fights, its just something about them that makes it better in my opinion. Apart from Hatton, because he's a blue, and the big fights, Dela Hoya/Manny/Mayweather it just doesnt entertain me, and Haye brings something to the Heavyweight division that it lacks because of the lack of big names. Its a shame the brothers have all the belts, because they wil never fight unless one does a giggsy. Id love to see Haye fight Vitali, because i think it would be alot closer than Wladimir, then drop down to crusierweight for one last fight if theres a big one there possible. I wouldnt know as i dont watch crusierweight boxing.