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leighton said:
conormcfc said:
He's said a few times he'd go down to 154 to fight Mayweather.

Pacquiao is fully capable of having a tune up and being ready for Mayweather by the time he decides to fight again.

Conor Manny has other fish to fry first. The Pacman fight there isnt much interest in it what does Money benefit from beating Pacman after he has been beaten in his last 2 fights??? You will get people saying Manny was finished as a fighter. I would love to see Manny going for Bradley and Marquez and try and get the wins there first. Marquez seems to have Manny's number in my opinion. I know what some say I just would want to see Manny get back in there with Bradley. Saying that for Manny its going on 6 months and no sign of any fight being made for Manny yet. Is he taking time out. Also Pacquiao is running in elections in May. So for me any fight wont be made until late September or early October thats if he decides to continue fighting. So that fight depending on Pacman winning his return fight could well be way into this time next year if not late next year. Money has to stay active and will fight maybe 1 more time this year.
All we can do is wait and see whats lined up for the end of the year in terms for a fight with Money. A lot of fighters wont fight him simply because there promotors wont just throw them into Money straight away be it Canelo or even Broner until they see signs of Money fading in my opinion.

No way is that true. Everybody wants to fight Floyd, he's a cash cow
 
bluemc1 said:
Manny to comeback v Brandon Rios, should be fun while it lasts

Is this official? I like Rios but this wont last long, he takes way to many punches plus I would assume he'll have to go up to 147 which he's never fought at. Wouldnt go as far as calling this a tune up fight for Pacquiao but it isnt far off.
 
Santiago Street . said:
leighton said:
conormcfc said:
He's said a few times he'd go down to 154 to fight Mayweather.

Pacquiao is fully capable of having a tune up and being ready for Mayweather by the time he decides to fight again.

Conor Manny has other fish to fry first. The Pacman fight there isnt much interest in it what does Money benefit from beating Pacman after he has been beaten in his last 2 fights??? You will get people saying Manny was finished as a fighter. I would love to see Manny going for Bradley and Marquez and try and get the wins there first. Marquez seems to have Manny's number in my opinion. I know what some say I just would want to see Manny get back in there with Bradley. Saying that for Manny its going on 6 months and no sign of any fight being made for Manny yet. Is he taking time out. Also Pacquiao is running in elections in May. So for me any fight wont be made until late September or early October thats if he decides to continue fighting. So that fight depending on Pacman winning his return fight could well be way into this time next year if not late next year. Money has to stay active and will fight maybe 1 more time this year.
All we can do is wait and see whats lined up for the end of the year in terms for a fight with Money. A lot of fighters wont fight him simply because there promotors wont just throw them into Money straight away be it Canelo or even Broner until they see signs of Money fading in my opinion.

No way is that true. Everybody wants to fight Floyd, he's a cash cow

He's spot on, just worded wrong 'promoters with solid prospects won't throw said fighters in with Floyd', a good businessman looks at long term gains, the above mentioned would both at this stage be outclassed imo which would 100% curtail future revenues!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Santiago Street . said:
leighton said:
Conor Manny has other fish to fry first. The Pacman fight there isnt much interest in it what does Money benefit from beating Pacman after he has been beaten in his last 2 fights??? You will get people saying Manny was finished as a fighter. I would love to see Manny going for Bradley and Marquez and try and get the wins there first. Marquez seems to have Manny's number in my opinion. I know what some say I just would want to see Manny get back in there with Bradley. Saying that for Manny its going on 6 months and no sign of any fight being made for Manny yet. Is he taking time out. Also Pacquiao is running in elections in May. So for me any fight wont be made until late September or early October thats if he decides to continue fighting. So that fight depending on Pacman winning his return fight could well be way into this time next year if not late next year. Money has to stay active and will fight maybe 1 more time this year.
All we can do is wait and see whats lined up for the end of the year in terms for a fight with Money. A lot of fighters wont fight him simply because there promotors wont just throw them into Money straight away be it Canelo or even Broner until they see signs of Money fading in my opinion.

No way is that true. Everybody wants to fight Floyd, he's a cash cow

He's spot on, just worded wrong 'promoters with solid prospects won't throw said fighters in with Floyd', a good businessman looks at long term gains, the above mentioned would both at this stage be outclassed imo which would 100% curtail future revenues!

It should be straight forward for a Money v either of the 2 fighters named to happen as all 3 are being promoted by Golden Boy but you can see Golden boy saying to both fighters they may not be ready for a Money test just yet my opinion. Until Money shows signs of being on a downward slope or the 2 other lads come out and demand a fight with Money. After the Trout fight I just want to see a rematch. Broner I want to see. I like him cocky side and all. I would watch a cocky fighter like him any day as he backs it up in the ring too.
 
conormcfc said:
Anyone watching this behind the ropes thing on sky at the moment? Absolute gold.

Roy Jones, Eubank, Calzaghe and Collins sat round a table proper going at each other! Must see stuff, honestly!

yea great stuff . Eubanks got it in for Collins !
 
modgeblue said:
conormcfc said:
Anyone watching this behind the ropes thing on sky at the moment? Absolute gold.

Roy Jones, Eubank, Calzaghe and Collins sat round a table proper going at each other! Must see stuff, honestly!

yea great stuff . Eubanks got it in for Collins !

A lot of honesty there which I liked. Suppose that was always gonna be the case with a load of Boxers.

Roy was looking a bit pissed off with the way they kept referring to Calzaghe as the 'best at the table'. Don't blame him to be honest.
 
modgeblue said:
conormcfc said:
Anyone watching this behind the ropes thing on sky at the moment? Absolute gold.

Roy Jones, Eubank, Calzaghe and Collins sat round a table proper going at each other! Must see stuff, honestly!

yea great stuff . Eubanks got it in for Collins !

Thought it was the other way round to be honest, and Calzaghe came accross better than I tought.

Collins seemed the most bitter, and more like he's got a grudgeor a chip on his shoulder over the jones fight. Jones didn't strike me as being to fussed over it
 
Heres a tiny bit of it

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/ringside/8713197/the-gloves-are-off-tease" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/t ... -off-tease</a>
 
Steve Collins said it how it was. A really good 1 its a shame they couldnt get Nigel Benn on it instead of Richie. Eubank trying to wind up Collins was good. What Collins said about Eubank was right saying he was shot prone when he boxed a young Calzaghe. Also what Eubank said about Collins was right too him avoiding Joe. But what Collins said about Joe at the time was right too. He was looking for a fight with Roy Jones Jnr and didnt want to take on someone he never heard of in a World title fight. Then he just retired after that. A really good 1 that was.
I can see why Collins is bitter towards Roy Jones Jnr as Roy did avoid a fight with Steve at the time. Its a sad state its like we never got to see that fight when both at there peak. Now the 2 get it on as they are old and past it.

Joe was the best and I think a fight with him and Collins would of been a great fight to have seen happening. I think Joe would of been push to his max of his limits in a fight with him. Also sadly we missed a Joe v Carl Froch fight too which would of been great to see. The UK and Ireland had some great Super Middleweights at the same time sadly the 2 best fights never happen Calzaghe v Collins and Froch.

<a class="postlink" href="http://youtu.be/gMjJ5caxJXw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://youtu.be/gMjJ5caxJXw</a> Collins calling out Jones Jnr.
 
conormcfc said:
There's no way Calzaghe would get near RJJ prime for prime.

I'd take Eubank over Calzaghe as well.

Collins seemed to get defensive whenever Eubank was speaking, taking intended compliments as insults.

Wish they had Benn or Hopkins there as well.

To be honest even without the 2 named it was well worth a look. I would love to see 1 with Naz , Wayne McCullough , Barrera and few others maybe even Scott Harrison for that weight division.
 
if that fight happens in their primes Collins doesn't win a round v RJJ, for me he doesn't beat Benn Eubank 3 years earlier either, the only question is Calzaghe v RJJ in their primes, Joe always found a way to win and had a great chin, Hopkins has such a hard style and Joe managed to do enough to get the nod, he always found a way, i was at both Hopkins and RJJ fights and when he got put down early in both the nerves in the arena were scary, now hes the man on the floor and the mental strength that takes to come back twice and win is awesome. BUT if made to call it id go for RJJ to win if both at their best
 
conormcfc said:
Put them in a ring circa '93-'03 and Roy beats him easier than he beat Toney.

i agree he wins but he i think he would know he'd been in a fight, just Joes hunger work rate chin and fight when hit would of made it a cracker to watch, Toney had that lazy thing and cocky "you didnt hurt me" thing and it went against him massive that night, that is if you were talking about Joe and not Collins
 
Tragic meat van guy said:
Heres a tiny bit of it

<a class="postlink" href="http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/ringside/8713197/the-gloves-are-off-tease" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/t ... -off-tease</a>


Cheers mate.
 
Adrian Broner v Paulie Malignaggi a bit of there press conference. Got to love Paulie about him slagging off Broner trying to be a Money. Haha. I hope Paulie backs it up in the ring. Think Broner may well spark Paulie out hope not.

<a class="postlink" href="http://youtu.be/LGYrksCqwho" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://youtu.be/LGYrksCqwho</a>
 

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