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yeseye
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Good performance by Khan. I think a fight with Kell would be good and the winner could then look to go for the winner of Money/Pac man, If any of these fights actually happen!
moon
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Do residents of the MGM get in free or get a discount for fights
Limerick's Andy Lee won the WBO Middleweight belt in Vegas last night; stopping the previously unbeaten Russian, Kobarov in the sixth round.
Like most observers, I would've thought that, being 31 now, his chanced had passed him by, especially with that world title defeat two or three years ago. Great to see one of the gentlemen of the sport get his due reward, though.
Not sure if he'll be able to defend it as well as the last Irishman to hold that particular belt, Steve Collins, mind. For one thing, Collins had big bucks to make locally, with the over hyped Benn and Eubank to pick off (winning twice against each, whilst all three were busy pretending a certain Mr Jones jnr wasn't lurking across the Atlantic). There just aren't those sort of box-office names about on this side of the ocean now.
(As an aside, for all the hoopla, Irish world champions generally don't surpass more than one or two defences. I wonder why that is? Or is it just my imagination - anyone know what the average number of successful defences is?).
Lee's mandatory defence will be v Billy Joe Saunders, who happens to be a Traveller. Lee's mother is also a Traveller. So I suppose we can expect some cringeworthy hype around that one! Although, Lee says he wants to defend it in Ireland. What's the betting it'll go ahead in New York on St Patrick's Day?
Like most observers, I would've thought that, being 31 now, his chanced had passed him by, especially with that world title defeat two or three years ago. Great to see one of the gentlemen of the sport get his due reward, though.
Not sure if he'll be able to defend it as well as the last Irishman to hold that particular belt, Steve Collins, mind. For one thing, Collins had big bucks to make locally, with the over hyped Benn and Eubank to pick off (winning twice against each, whilst all three were busy pretending a certain Mr Jones jnr wasn't lurking across the Atlantic). There just aren't those sort of box-office names about on this side of the ocean now.
(As an aside, for all the hoopla, Irish world champions generally don't surpass more than one or two defences. I wonder why that is? Or is it just my imagination - anyone know what the average number of successful defences is?).
Lee's mandatory defence will be v Billy Joe Saunders, who happens to be a Traveller. Lee's mother is also a Traveller. So I suppose we can expect some cringeworthy hype around that one! Although, Lee says he wants to defend it in Ireland. What's the betting it'll go ahead in New York on St Patrick's Day?
leighton
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mad4city said:
Andy Lee was brilliant last night. It was a close fight no doubting it and right up to the KO it was close but I had Lee behind on the card. But there is 1 thing for sure and the last 2 fights have shown this Lee was getting beaten by Jackson last time out and he KOs Jackson with a great 1 shot punch. Last night once he had Korobov going he finished him off. I got Lee to win last night at 9/4 so I was up money. He rocked Korobov and finished him well got to love him as you have said he is a lovely guy. Seem him time and time again at Irish fights and he will sign so many autographys and get in pics with everyone and anyone. Its nice to see good guys getting to be called World Champions. Ireland as a whole has 2 World Champions in Frampton and Lee and its brilliant for boxing on the island. They get fuck all media attention at home more so the Ams would get more attention. But delighted for Lee.
I think the Billy Joe Saunders fight will be a good 1 not been impressed with Billy Joe against Eubank Jnr faded away in the last few rounds he is a great boxer but is he or can he take a punch from Andy who has banged out a good standard of fighters in his last 2. Lee is reminding me of Kiko Marthinez he got beaten by Munroe the binman and Frampton and still went on to win his World title and defended it. I think Lee can do the same and I think a stopage win for Lee I would predict more so if its in the UK as Lee wont win on points in the UK.
As for fights or potential fights for Lee easy money making fight with Mat Macklin would sell out anywhere in Ireland. Then you got the likes of a fight with Martin Murray but hes fighting GGG. A fight with GGG I would put on the long finger for Lee and if he beats BJS then go for Jermain Taylor. GGG wants a fight with Miguel Cotto but dont shocked to see a Lee v GGG fight in the future if both remain unbeaten. I think the job Adam Booth has done with Lee has been brilliant Booth is so under rated as a trainer and he has worked well with Haye , Groves and Lee. I honestly think if Groves was with Booth for the Froch 1 fight then George Groves would of been a World Champion by now. Anyway thats my lot well done Lee job done.
Hamann Pineapple
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the plasterer
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pmsl, quality thatHamann Pineapple said:
yeseye
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Terry Flannagan (Ancoats Blue) on Box nation now.
leighton
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yeseye said:
It was a really close fight until the DQ. I find the ref in it was poor. I know Stephen and he isnt a type of fighter to consitantly use the head. It seemed to me with Terry doing a lot of holding within the fight Stephen lost his composure and used his head. IF the ref was being fair he would of been on Terrys case for holding as well as Stephens for using the head. I think thats how it goes I wish Terry the best in his upcoming fights and I wouldnt mind seeing a rematch. For Terry to go into a world title fight next might not be the best thing just yet in my opinion.
uwe rosler 28
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leighton said:
Stephen was knackered he couldn't cope with terrys movement and speed he knew the fight was beyond reach as terry had outclassed him for the previous 3 round and he had nothing more to give imho! I don't think it was in terrys best interests to hold as I said he's the quicker skillfuller fighter! He has to take the world title fight now! British and European champion thsts the next step to be fair up until last night he had hardly been hit in he's other 26 fights! For me I think he wins the world title then takes on crolla!
uwe rosler 28 said:
it was a good fight and terry had to much power for him (Stephen) and the ref should have kicked him out a round before for using the head. he was beating him up to the head and body and could not cope with terry movement
a big fight now in Manchester for terry and I can see him being champion but its a hard step up to world level and 1 fight could make or break you. so the right fight is what needed and its not just about the money that will come if your backing crew in the corner keep his feet on the floor
leighton
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ancoats said:
Its all about opinions just think the holding could well of been dealt with at times. Again I think both Stephen and Terry beats Crolla just my opinion. I think Crolla is the weakest out of them all at UK/Irish level.
leighton said:
yep the holding is sometimes used to much in fights but its part of boxing and the ref's can be for it or not but I did not see terry using that to much. its was the power of terry punching and the speed on the move in and out that worked over the other lad
I like Stephen a very good boxer and he will have another day he was good about the lost he held his hands up and said the better man won but the head butt thing was shocking for that level and a title holder
Crolla is a very good boxer but just had severe head injuries and broken ankle after an altercation with two burglars maybe he will need time to get fully healed but yes Manchester 2 best boxers would be a great world title fight and I would back terry
leighton
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Crolla might not come back from that beating he got. He isnt blessed with power just a good boxer. Takeing any sort of shots to the head will always make you think how he will react to it or if he can take the punishment.
ell
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Scotty Cardle was on sky calling him out saying hes got to fight by March or vacate the title
ell said:
Crolla will not fight by march so he may need to vacate the title but hhe's hoping for a return by late may
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ell
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ancoats said:
Flanagan