The "Brand" is growing ;)

liam81101 said:
What I will say is whilst I'm obviously loving the recent success and good times I would hate us to 'sell out' and become a 'brand' - United are a 'brand' first and foremost,. We are a family club and I hope we stay that way. Oh and by the way I have been a supporter since 1978 so have seen the dark days
only sice 78 1 another glory hunter
 
Silvotelli said:
I live in the States. My dad has been a City fan since the 90's. I have a '99 Home shirt with Wanchope 23 on the back. Unfortunately I could not watch City or enjoy soccer for that matter until 2008, due to money and broadcast availability. So I got full into City just barely before the money came in. Anyways, massive City fan now. Would never pick any club over City, although when football first became available to me, I might have been a bigger fan of Inter, though that phase is over. Hopefully City becomes more popular, just as long as people know the history and what separates us from them.

Fuck off rag, how's your CHAMP20NS t shirt?
 
mcfcliam said:
Silvotelli said:
I live in the States. My dad has been a City fan since the 90's. I have a '99 Home shirt with Wanchope 23 on the back. Unfortunately I could not watch City or enjoy soccer for that matter until 2008, due to money and broadcast availability. So I got full into City just barely before the money came in. Anyways, massive City fan now. Would never pick any club over City, although when football first became available to me, I might have been a bigger fan of Inter, though that phase is over. Hopefully City becomes more popular, just as long as people know the history and what separates us from them.

Fuck off rag, how's your CHAMP20NS t shirt?
I don't know why they make it so obvious.
 
Matt the Giant said:
This summer we took the kids to Legoland in Denmark, and I counted no less than four City shirts over two days there, excluding our own. Later we went to Germany for a quickie and there we spotted two more. Back in Denmark, Copenhagen and the amusement park "Tivoli" we saw two more. Finally, in Sweden, at Astrid Lindgrens world, we see one more and recently when we went to Gothenburg to see Barca play Manure we saw two more.

My son told me that five of the shirts we saw had "Silva 21" printed on the back. The wizard is a popular man!

It was such a joy to behold each and every one of them. But... the most common football shirt was by far Man United, followed by Barcelona. We came third.


you sure the 2 you kept seeing weren't your own kids? Only asking like
 
The "Brand" is growing ;)

93:21- Rick officially becomes a city fan. It hurt to see my former loves sign 2 players I was hopeful of us signing so i understand what you guy are talking about when you say bad times. What a ride though! If we smarten up and buy Dempsey I may even stick around a few years
 
hey mcfc liam, if you ever come to my fair city and decide to pick up on baseball (dont bother it's boring and shit) you cant follow my team because weve recently become successful. even if you find a reason, persay they have the similar color to your beloved city, well too bad cuz its mine! all mine! im not sharing! furthermore i dont want to see others delight in the success of a club i love so much...!

sound familiar to a bunch of children. unfortunately not all of us have the crop of the litter to pick from for exciting end to end football and if foreign fans want to invest in your beloved club, cherish them. without us the shiekh wouldve never bothered to invest because he understands that city had a great potential worlwide following, and its unfolding despite your closed eye'd view on the world. united bandwagon fans typically gloat as if it were their own work that gave them trophies, while most 'bandwagon' city fans will understand the pain. i may of only been a fan since 08 but i was their when that ginger fuck scored a header against us in way extra time. not to mention owens goal. ive experienced pain for city albeit not nearly to the degree of you respectable hardcore blues, but still i feel i was there to some degree in spirit. ...rant over, sorry.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:19 am --<br /><br />
KansasCITY said:
I wish these threads would stop fucking popping up every month. I'm blue, I'll stay blue, I'm from America, its really none of your business either way.

this; does it really matter where were from if were all tuning it at the same time every week to support the club we love?
 
borninm14 said:
We are not Stockport County but we are Manchester City Football Club and the vast majority of our fanbase has been through the bad times which subsequently has moulded us into what we are.

I despise all these people that have no connection with our club and have just jumped on to a very large bandwagon, would these cretins be wearing the latest city shirt if we were mid table ? would they fuck, remember we have risen very fast in the last few years but we can easily return to mid table mediocrity, will these fuckers be buying shirts then ?.

What a blinkered view, Ive been a blue for over 40 years and without the money from our owners we would continue to be a yoyo team, in 40 years my biggest and best memory of being a blue is gillingham 2nd div play off victory with john stapleton sat behind me.

Not the best of memories considering what we have achieved in just a few years under the Sheikh.

If we want to continue the rise and the standard of players that are now gracing our hollowed turf then the fan base needs to be worldwide.

I was in the Mad Hatters NY at christmas and the place was bouncing with blues, prior to being prem champs and after May 13th I spent my 8th year visting orlando and for the first time ever I saw City shirts actually sold in the sports shops, I personally thought it was fantastic.

I then went on a cruise to the Norwegian Fjords and they were selling our beloved shirt on the ship, never ever have i seen this.

Like it or lump it success breeds hunters but its exactly what is required to dominate and grow.
I hate the rags with a passion and most of their loyal fan base hate the glory hunters but without them they would be nothing.... infact with them there nothing but im sure you get the point.

The Sheikh isnt going to bank roll us for ever, he is going to want a return at some point and by incresed fan base comes increased revenue.

Im a happy blue and will be so long as we reign, however im in it for life not just the silverwear, but i dont dis a blue either seasoned or new.
 
The "Brand" is growing ;)

mancincali said:
hey mcfc liam, if you ever come to my fair city and decide to pick up on baseball (dont bother it's boring and shit) you cant follow my team because weve recently become successful. even if you find a reason, persay they have the similar color to your beloved city, well too bad cuz its mine! all mine! im not sharing! furthermore i dont want to see others delight in the success of a club i love so much...!

sound familiar to a bunch of children. unfortunately not all of us have the crop of the litter to pick from for exciting end to end football and if foreign fans want to invest in your beloved club, cherish them. without us the shiekh wouldve never bothered to invest because he understands that city had a great potential worlwide following, and its unfolding despite your closed eye'd view on the world. united bandwagon fans typically gloat as if it were their own work that gave them trophies, while most 'bandwagon' city fans will understand the pain. i may of only been a fan since 08 but i was their when that ginger fuck scored a header against us in way extra time. not to mention owens goal. ive experienced pain for city albeit not nearly to the degree of you respectable hardcore blues, but still i feel i was there to some degree in spirit. ...rant over, sorry.

-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:19 am --

KansasCITY said:
I wish these threads would stop fucking popping up every month. I'm blue, I'll stay blue, I'm from America, its really none of your business either way.

this; does it really matter where were from if were all tuning it at the same time every week to support the club we love?
I think Liam's point is that just because he went to a baseball game in your city he wouldn't suddenly decide to 'support' them.

Just saying like...
 
Re: The

Didsbury Dave said:
mancincali said:
hey mcfc liam, if you ever come to my fair city and decide to pick up on baseball (dont bother it's boring and shit) you cant follow my team because weve recently become successful. even if you find a reason, persay they have the similar color to your beloved city, well too bad cuz its mine! all mine! im not sharing! furthermore i dont want to see others delight in the success of a club i love so much...!

sound familiar to a bunch of children. unfortunately not all of us have the crop of the litter to pick from for exciting end to end football and if foreign fans want to invest in your beloved club, cherish them. without us the shiekh wouldve never bothered to invest because he understands that city had a great potential worlwide following, and its unfolding despite your closed eye'd view on the world. united bandwagon fans typically gloat as if it were their own work that gave them trophies, while most 'bandwagon' city fans will understand the pain. i may of only been a fan since 08 but i was their when that ginger fuck scored a header against us in way extra time. not to mention owens goal. ive experienced pain for city albeit not nearly to the degree of you respectable hardcore blues, but still i feel i was there to some degree in spirit. ...rant over, sorry.

-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:19 am --

KansasCITY said:
I wish these threads would stop fucking popping up every month. I'm blue, I'll stay blue, I'm from America, its really none of your business either way.

this; does it really matter where were from if were all tuning it at the same time every week to support the club we love?
I think Liam's point is that just because he went to a baseball game in your city he wouldn't suddenly decide to 'support' them.

Just saying like...

People have picked on my posts when it's not even my thread.

All I've said was why are people being hypocritical when mocking United's out of town/foreign support but say things like 'welcome to the manchester city family' when ours pop up.

Not once have I had a go at these people in this thread but still.
 
borninm14 said:
We are not Stockport County but we are Manchester City Football Club and the vast majority of our fanbase has been through the bad times which subsequently has moulded us into what we are.

I despise all these people that have no connection with our club and have just jumped on to a very large bandwagon, would these cretins be wearing the latest city shirt if we were mid table ? would they fuck, remember we have risen very fast in the last few years but we can easily return to mid table mediocrity, will these fuckers be buying shirts then ?.

Couldn't agree more mate.
 
I was born in the mid 60s and support City because my dad and grandad supported City. However I had plenty of friends at school who were City fans because City were better than United during the early 70s. Many of them continued to follow City throughout the gloom and doom and I suspect that some of them are on this forum.
Similarly. there will be thousands of youngsters who now support City because we won the league in such dramatic style last May. That's the way it evolves.
There was a period not so long ago when the average City fan was a balding, pot bellied middle aged alcoholic. We didn't have any younger fans and there was a danger that we were beginning to resemble three-day Cricket fans.
We can always pretend to prefer the bad old days, but progress also has a price.
 
Jonny68 said:
borninm14 said:
We are not Stockport County but we are Manchester City Football Club and the vast majority of our fanbase has been through the bad times which subsequently has moulded us into what we are.

I despise all these people that have no connection with our club and have just jumped on to a very large bandwagon, would these cretins be wearing the latest city shirt if we were mid table ? would they fuck, remember we have risen very fast in the last few years but we can easily return to mid table mediocrity, will these fuckers be buying shirts then ?.

Couldn't agree more mate.

But what about the City fans from outside Manchester that have been going through the dark times?
Should we now stop going and supporting "YOUR CLUB" because we are successful?
 
City 1 Chelsea 1 1971 said:
I was born in the mid 60s and support City because my dad and grandad supported City. However I had plenty of friends at school who were City fans because City were better than United during the early 70s. Many of them continued to follow City throughout the gloom and doom and I suspect that some of them are on this forum.
Similarly. there will be thousands of youngsters who now support City because we won the league in such dramatic style last May. That's the way it evolves.
There was a period not so long ago when the average City fan was a balding, pot bellied middle aged alcoholic. We didn't have any younger fans and there was a danger that we were beginning to resemble three-day Cricket fans.
We can always pretend to prefer the bad old days, but progress also has a price.
well said mate
 
mcfcliam said:
The Ox said:
xbuddyx said:
Im one of those scandinavians. While i spent a lifetime supporting and defending the blues, i just recently found my way to this forum. Let me tell you this, supporting the most wounderful club known to man is not easy in Scandinavia. Almost everyone around here supports Arsenal, Liverpool or the club i won't mention by name. With all the money the great sheik Mansour brought to the club it's not really any easier since now you are always called a plastic fan if you support City. The most common thing you hear is something like "so before 2009 you supported Chelsea, now you support City and tomorrow you will support PSG". People over here often don't realize that City existed before shiek Mansour and had supporters before that aswell. Not that there are alot of us, Im still the only one in my hometown that i know of and yes i make my allegiance perfectly known as i parade proudly in my cityshirts.

I have no connection to Manchester or UK. I don't even remember when or why i fell inlove with Manchester City FC. A dream is to one day actually see a game at the Etihad stadium and drink beer with fellow blues. Might sound a little stupid to you guys who has season cards or the possibily to visit the stadium when you want, but over here we dream about just going to that one game. On a side note one of my shirts says Silva 21 aswell. Thats my favourite shirt, bought it shortly after the Silva transfer was announced at mcfc.co.uk :)

Anyhow greetings from Sweden. I was a blue long before Mansour and I will be a blue untill i die.... hopefully under a lovely blue moon.
Welcome Blue :)

What if there was a rag with the same story?

Would you be slating him?

Don't be obsessed with them. Forget them as we speed past. It would be selfish for us to deny anyone the right to support our magnificent club.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:26 pm --<br /><br />
Lordeffingham said:
borninm14 said:
We are not Stockport County but we are Manchester City Football Club and the vast majority of our fanbase has been through the bad times which subsequently has moulded us into what we are.

I despise all these people that have no connection with our club and have just jumped on to a very large bandwagon, would these cretins be wearing the latest city shirt if we were mid table ? would they fuck, remember we have risen very fast in the last few years but we can easily return to mid table mediocrity, will these fuckers be buying shirts then ?.

I'm assuming the 14 in your screen name is either your age or your IQ, but either way you need to think a little deeper before being so derogitory in your assessment of these new found supporters.

1) I assume you will apply the test to all of them equally, and not base your criticism om what their ethnic origin, sex or class (wealth), only I dare say if that is the case you must feel the prince and all his family have jumped onto YOUR bandwaggon and are also Gloryhunters.

2) I know we all feel that bit more special if we have held our affiliation to OUR Club for longer than others, but as anything becomes more popular, whether it be a pop group or computer game, those who have been on board from the start are actually just a bit luckier than those realising they have found something special, and shouldn't be prevented from sharing in the fun, (bet every record/cd you've bought was from a source that you have been a fan of since the group were starting off in a garage in a backwater somewhere?).

3) The Club are actually very happy to have these exotic and faraway fans donating towards the Clubs wealth and every penny spent will in some way add to your personal enjoyment at the ground, where you not they will experience the live event and be afforded the luxury of seeing players that only 4 years ago we could have only ever dreamt of drooling over.

4) We should rightly be proud of how long we have supported OUR team, but for many other reasons some supporters are not able to attend games, and some of these who you would probably label as armchair fans, through age, dissability or circumstances beyond their control, do not get the pleasure of witnessing what you probably do in the flesh and every week. Well if they are eighty plus years old and have been Blues all their life, does that make them any less of a fan than anyone else?

5) Maybe you could start a numbering system and list every City fan in order of their rank, and I'm pretty sure if you did, you'd be so far down the historical list that if we were allotted tickets on the length of time we had supported the Club, that you would never get one!

Rant over, so please don't pick on people without any actual knowledge of their situation and reasons for supporting/attending City, and refrain from personally abusing people, it isn't very nice.

Superbly put!
 
law74 said:
Jonny68 said:
borninm14 said:
We are not Stockport County but we are Manchester City Football Club and the vast majority of our fanbase has been through the bad times which subsequently has moulded us into what we are.

I despise all these people that have no connection with our club and have just jumped on to a very large bandwagon, would these cretins be wearing the latest city shirt if we were mid table ? would they fuck, remember we have risen very fast in the last few years but we can easily return to mid table mediocrity, will these fuckers be buying shirts then ?.

Couldn't agree more mate.

But what about the City fans from outside Manchester that have been going through the dark times?
Should we now stop going and supporting "YOUR CLUB" because we are successful?

When did they mention out of town fans?

I think they mean bandwagon jumpers in general. You could get Mancunian bandwagon jumpers and I'm pretty sure we do have/will have them.

I do agree in a way. Why would anyone want to latch onto something they have no connection to? Surely it's an easy way out and just a quick fix of success and they won't feel the same emotions as the lifelong blues. Infact, they'll feel fuck all.

That's just me though, I can't fathom the mentality. Not going to go around abusing these people though, I just have an opinion which will no doubt be jumped on by some of the piranhas of this forum.
 
In Scandinavia the national TV have shown "Match Of The Day" every Saturday since 1969, it was the only football brodcasted between october - april because their own leagues are played during the summer. There are many fans over there who jumped the City bandwagon when Colin was king, poor bastards, little did they know.
 
Honest answers to this scenario, please.

If your mate, from Manchester, told you that he supported Surrey in cricket, started boasting to you every time Surrey won something or beat Lancs and he had no connection to Surrey or apparent reason for doing so, would you not think this particularly strange and laughable behaviour?

The same goes for if he started supporting Spain in international football or the USA in the Ryder Cup or Leicester in Rugby Union.

People on here like to say "club football is different" to such examples. But it is only different in that the last 20 years has seen more and more gloryhunters and they wage a constant quest to justify their gloryhunting with all sorts of 'reasons'. Football is also different in that the clubs are, by far, the most aggressive in trying to exploit and encourage such shallow behaviour.

But, the principles are the same, no matter how it is excused/explained or encouraged.
 
jma said:
Honest answers to this scenario, please.

If your mate, from Manchester, told you that he supported Surrey in cricket, started boasting to you every time Surrey won something or beat Lancs and he had no connection to Surrey or apparent reason for doing so, would you not think this particularly strange and laughable behaviour?

The same goes for if he started supporting Spain in international football or the USA in the Ryder Cup or Leicester in Rugby Union.

People on here like to say "club football is different" to such examples. But it is only different in that the last 20 years has seen more and more gloryhunters and they wage a constant quest to justify their gloryhunting with all sorts of 'reasons'. Football is also different in that the clubs are, by far, the most aggressive in trying to exploit and encourage such shallow behaviour.

But, the principles are the same, no matter how it is excused/explained or encouraged.

You don't realize the football climate in countries which has no decent football but still 90% of the population has played football at some point during their lifespan. I have probably seen 100 times more Citygames then I have seen any swedish football games. As I pointed out before we are spoonfed into brittish football and as Keith Moon pointed out it's a project which the brittish FA started as early as 1969. Many many many swedish football supporters has never even seen an entire football game from any team in our highest league just because they are brought up with the idea that swedish football sucks. You simply can't compare it to a nation like UK, Italy, Germany, Spain or whatnot. My father even used to work as a youth coach, and he doesn't even watch swedish football.
 

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