The British Monarchy

I just think they are redundant like horse tram drivers or lamp lighters.

The King/Queen used to run the country. They did what the PM does now.

Now they are just a fifth wheel on a bus. At most, the equivalent at national level of a ceremonial mayor.

But ceremonial mayors don't get millions a year and the job is not hereditary in one family. Imagine how we'd laugh if the Lord Mayor of Manchester was always the senior member of some random family off Ryder Brow Estate. That would be every bit as rational.
Even if we were to dispose of the monarchy they would take their private wealth with them, only if an armed rebellion could we up root them from their vast wealth and the army swear allegiance to the King.
I’d get rid of the mayors though it is an extra tier of government just extra expense
 
The last few years has highlighted that it’s time to get rid of the Monarchy as it exists, Andrew’s questionable morals re:Epstein etc. & Charles the slum landlord. reduce them to ceremonial roles, let them generate their own wealth, let them vacate their palaces & castles, open them up to the public, & reclaim some of that vast swathes of stolen public land
 
Even if we were to dispose of the monarchy they would take their private wealth with them, only if an armed rebellion could we up root them from their vast wealth and the army swear allegiance to the King.
I’d get rid of the mayors though it is an extra tier of government just extra expense
The mayors should be the first thing to go - that and the national parliaments in Scotland and Wales.

All completely unnecessary, wasteful and ineffective.
 
Even if we were to dispose of the monarchy they would take their private wealth with them, only if an armed rebellion could we up root them from their vast wealth and the army swear allegiance to the King.
I’d get rid of the mayors though it is an extra tier of government just extra expense
I have no desire to take their private - note private - wealth away from them. They are welcome to it, as long as they pay tax on the same basis as any other citizen.

What mayors do you object to?

The ceremonial mayors, like the Lord Mayor of Manchester? All they do is cut ribbons, and attend flower shows and the like. They have no executive power. They are purely decorative and ceremonial.

Executive mayors like Andy Burnham? If you didn't have them, someone else would have to do their job. That someone else would almost certainly not be directed elected. Favourite would be the Chair, for the time being, of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. I fail to see how that would be more democratic or more efficient. It would be like replacing the PM with the Chair of the Parliamentary Public Accounts Committee.

I find it odd that some people are opposed to devolution. Do you prefer decisions to be taken by some faceless bureaucrat in Whitehall, who has never been north of Oxford and doesn't know Hulme from Halifax? Because generally people dislike and distrust the Sir Humphreys of Whitehall.

As I said, if you get rid of Burnham, someone else has to do the job. Someone else has to make the decisions. Contrary to the perceived image, Burnham is not some czar with absolute powers. He has to get the GMCA representatives to go along with him, and he has to stay within the law. He, and the GMCA representatives, are all elected by the people of Greater Manchester.
 
Even if we were to dispose of the monarchy they would take their private wealth with them, only if an armed rebellion could we up root them from their vast wealth and the army swear allegiance to the King.
I’d get rid of the mayors though it is an extra tier of government just extra expense
The mayors replace a tier of government, not add an extra one. Who do you want managing regional transport strategy for example? The London-centric national government or individual neighbouring councils that all have different ideas?
 
Pointless thread, there are many who support the Monarchy, and many who don’t. Nothing will change until the illegal immigrants become the majority of the population, which might not take long at this rate. Certainly it would take much longer for Parliament, The House of Lords, and the legal process to remove the Monarchy.
 

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