The British Monarchy

KS55 said:
You have read Wiki properly. In line 1 of your ref, it steals clearly that her title was “Queen “ etc. No mention of consort.
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No I have read it right, the title was given to her for a reason.

Was the Queen Mother known as Queen Consort?​

The last person to hold the title of Queen Consort was the Queen Mother.
The Queen Mother was born as Elizabeth Angela Marguerite Bowes-Lyon on 4 August 1900. She married Albert Frederick Arthur George in 1923, her husband would later take the name of King George VI following his accession to the throne in December 1936.

King George VI was officially crowned King at the coronation in May 1937. At this stage Elizabeth would become known as Queen Consort.

www.nationalworld.com

The Queen Consort is anointed alongside the King at the coronation ceremony

Prince Philip is the longest serving consort in history
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The point raised earlier was that Diana would have had a different title to Camilla, that wasn't true they would have held the same consort title.
 
mexico1970 said:
The point raised earlier was that Diana would have had a different title to Camilla, that wasn't true they would have held the same consort title.
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Wrong wrong wrong. Female consorts of king are titled Queen, whereas male consorts of the Queen are not known as king, for obvious reasons.
mexico1970 said:
The point raised earlier was that Diana would have had a different title to Camilla, that wasn't true they would have held the same consort title.
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Ffs mex type out here the first line of your first ref, which is the accurate one.
PS YOUR last link is awry, not a link at all.
 
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tolmie's hairdoo said:
She was wearing a seat belt. It was her bodyguard Trevor Rees-Jones who ironically wasn't, and he survived.

All protection officers don't wear belts, so they can react with a sidearm.

The belt actually caused Diana most of the internal injuries and aorta damage.
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This isn't true. She was facing side on in the crash and none of the occupants were wearing a seat belt.

"Although there are conflicting reports (such as BBC and CNN), the investigation Operation Paget report notes "Operation Paget's view is that none of the seat belts were being worn at the time of the impact, including that of Trevor Rees-Jones." (Page 421)"

He wasn't a protection officer he was a private bodyguard.
 
Diana would have been the Queen Mother, consort makes no difference it means accomplices or companion to the King, it’s the fact Camilla will be crowned that seems over the top. They are both divorced and Diana and Harry were stripped of titles and security, I’m not watching Camilla get her crowning glory
Phillip was already a Prince of Greece and I don’t think he wanted to be a Queen consort king
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Diana would have been the Queen Mother, consort makes no difference it means accomplices or companion to the King, it’s the fact Camilla will be crowned that seems over the top. They are both divorced and Diana and Harry were stripped of titles and security, I’m not watching Camilla get her crowning glory
Phillip was already a Prince of Greece and I don’t think he wanted to be a Queen consort king
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You‘ll have to take it up with Henry VIII, who formed a religion based on his marital issues.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Diana would have been the Queen Mother, consort makes no difference it means accomplices or companion to the King, it’s the fact Camilla will be crowned that seems over the top. They are both divorced and Diana and Harry were stripped of titles and security, I’m not watching Camilla get her crowning glory
Phillip was already a Prince of Greece and I don’t think he wanted to be a Queen consort king
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Kirkstall Blue said:
Diana would have been the Queen Mother, consort makes no difference it means accomplices or companion to the King, it’s the fact Camilla will be crowned that seems over the top. They are both divorced and Diana and Harry were stripped of titles and security, I’m not watching Camilla get her crowning glory
Phillip was already a Prince of Greece and I don’t think he wanted to be a Queen consort king
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Never got the cult of Diana, Harry lost his privileges as he wanted a life out of the limelight and fucked off to the USA . Same as anyone else in UK Charles & Camila were free to remarry once divorced . So he will be King & she will be Queen consort if you don't like it feel free to moan about it on twitter .
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
The list of faithful kings and princes is probably shorter than the list of adulterous philanderers.
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tbf, other than Edward VII, every English King of the 20th Century was (in all probability) faithful while they were on the throne. Edward VIII only because of the length of his reign and because of the spell WS had over him, rather than any moral rectitude.
 
mexico1970 said:
She was the Queen consort mate, it's the official title it hasn't changed.

Queen consort of the United Kingdom
and the British Dominions

en.wikipedia.org

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother - Wikipedia

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All this debate about what fucking title this ordinary woman should hold, and should she wear a crown...it just emphasizes what a load of old bollocks Royalty is. They're just people, two arms and two legs and they sit on a toilet to shit, just like us (they don't clean it though, like we do).
All these titles, Duke's, Earl's, Marquess, Prince's HRH bollocks should be got rid off, it's all designed to make us commoners feel inadequate, subservient and inferior.

I'm so glad David Bowie, Albert Finney, Stephen Hawking, Thomas Hardy & Alan Bennett all refused a knighthood.
I hold them in high esteem.
 
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Bill Walker said:
All this debate about what fucking title this ordinary woman should hold, and should she wear a crown...it just emphasizes what a load of old bollocks Royalty is. They're just people, two arms and two legs and they sit on a toilet to shit, just like us (they don't clean it though, like we do).
All these titles, Duke's, Earl's, Marquess, Prince's HRH bollocks should be got rid off, it's all designed to make us commoners feel inadequate, subservient and inferior.



I'm so glad David Bowie, Albert Finney, Stephen Hawking, Thomas Hardy & Alan Bennett all refused a knighthood.
I hold them in high esteem.
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Who will you elect as president down under when the monarchy goes, Skippy?
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
This isn't true. She was facing side on in the crash and none of the occupants were wearing a seat belt.

"Although there are conflicting reports (such as BBC and CNN), the investigation Operation Paget report notes "Operation Paget's view is that none of the seat belts were being worn at the time of the impact, including that of Trevor Rees-Jones." (Page 421)"

He wasn't a protection officer he was a private bodyguard.
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Former officer who applied the same principles, admittedly.

I have seen reports he ordered her to put the belt on as Paul drove quicker. Dodi ignored it.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Former officer who applied the same principles, admittedly.
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Citation? I can't find anything that says he was a police officer, he is a former paratrooper though.

tolmie's hairdoo said:
I have seen reports he ordered her to put the belt on as Paul drove quicker. Dodi ignored it.
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Despite the fact that TRJ had almost complete memory loss. That's not just a source with questionable origin, it cannot be true unless it came from TRJ himself.

And yet the inquiry found he wasn't wearing his seat belt, if he made such an order why not put it on himself?

Does the firearm rationale apply here? Very unlikely but...

Any evidence he was carrying one? because if he was, it would have been illegally. It wasn't legal for private security operating in France to have guns until 2018.

France legalises weapons for personal security staff

Personal security guards are now permitted to carry weapons, according to a new law published in the Journal Officiel on December 31.
www.connexionfrance.com www.connexionfrance.com

www.francetvinfo.fr

Les agents de la sécurité privée pourront être armés à partir du 1er janvier

Ce texte est la traduction réglementaire d'une disposition de la loi sur la sécurité publique du 1er mars 2017.
www.francetvinfo.fr www.francetvinfo.fr

He has authored a book, but it it focuses on the events immediately before the crash and timeline after him coming out of a coma.

Come back with citations or stop doubling down.
 
KS55 said:
Wrong wrong wrong. Female consorts of king are titled Queen, whereas male consorts of the Queen are not known as king, for obvious reasons.

Ffs mex type out here the first line of your first ref, which is the accurate one.
PS YOUR last link is awry, not a link at all.
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Sorry for the late reply mate.

Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother or Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (1900–2002) was the consort of King George VI and mother of Queen Elizabeth II.

Elizabeth the Queen Mother (disambiguation) - Wikipedia

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If say the Queen Mother had been given the full Queen title we would have lived under the reign of Queen Elizabeth III instead of Queen Elizabeth II is probably the easiest way of looking at it.
 
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