The British Monarchy

[Really_here]

Pointless thread, there are many who support the Monarchy, and many who don’t. Nothing will change until the illegal immigrants become the majority of the population, which might not take long at this rate. Certainly it would take much longer for Parliament, The House of Lords, and the legal process to remove the Monarchy.

 

[BrianW]

It was 'pointless' for working men, in 1800, to talk about having the vote.
It was 'pointless' for women, in 1900, to talk about women having the vote.
It was 'pointless' for serfs, in 1200, to talk about ending serfdom.
It was 'pointless' for the slaves in the Southern States in 1850 to talk about emancipation.

Political change takes time and is always opposed by conservatives and vested interests. And then one day - it happens. These processes have to start somewhere. This particular process has started and has about 25% support right now and another 10% who don't care either way.

 

[Bournemouth Blue]

It was 'pointless' for working men, in 1800, to talk about having the vote.
It was 'pointless' for women, in 1900, to talk about women having the vote.
It was 'pointless' for serfs, in 1200, to talk about ending serfdom.
It was 'pointless' for the slaves in the Southern States in 1850 to talk about emancipation.

Political change takes time and is always opposed by conservatives and vested interests. And then one day - it happens. These processes have to start somewhere. This particular process has started and has about 25% support right now and another 10% who don't care either way.

Fair point, but I personally don’t mind the Monarchy as such, I do hate arseholes who abuse their power, such as Al Fayed etc.Prince Andrew might need to answer some questions, but in general they do a lot for the country. So your opinion is as valid as mine, but I will leave it there. Don’t assume your opinion is representative of everyone, I don’t assume mine is either. That is why we have a democracy, although somehow this seems to be disappearing very quickly these days.

 

[BrianW]

Don’t assume your opinion is representative of everyone

Have I ever done that?
I don't think so.
It would certainly be uncharacteristic of me. I am quite used to being in a minority - that doesn't faze me, or I would be a rag fan. And drink keg piss.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Will also be allowed to see all emails between the sun and the royal family

The palace press office feeding stories or his brother? My guess a servant

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

I have no desire to take their private - note private - wealth away from them. They are welcome to it, as long as they pay tax on the same basis as any other citizen.

What mayors do you object to?

The ceremonial mayors, like the Lord Mayor of Manchester? All they do is cut ribbons, and attend flower shows and the like. They have no executive power. They are purely decorative and ceremonial.

Executive mayors like Andy Burnham? If you didn't have them, someone else would have to do their job. That someone else would almost certainly not be directed elected. Favourite would be the Chair, for the time being, of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. I fail to see how that would be more democratic or more efficient. It would be like replacing the PM with the Chair of the Parliamentary Public Accounts Committee.

I find it odd that some people are opposed to devolution. Do you prefer decisions to be taken by some faceless bureaucrat in Whitehall, who has never been north of Oxford and doesn't know Hulme from Halifax? Because generally people dislike and distrust the Sir Humphreys of Whitehall.

As I said, if you get rid of Burnham, someone else has to do the job. Someone else has to make the decisions. Contrary to the perceived image, Burnham is not some czar with absolute powers. He has to get the GMCA representatives to go along with him, and he has to stay within the law. He, and the GMCA representatives, are all elected by the people of Greater Manchester.

We have two tiers of Mayor we managed quite well without them for decades. The leader of Manchester council can cut the ribbons can’t he ? I don’t mind Burnham it’s nothing personal I was saving money on the rates.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

What about the NI Assembly?

N.I is different they had their own Parliament in Stormont they just have a shared assembley now.

 

[Ric]

Prince Andrew might need to answer some questions

Might?!

 

[bluethrunthru]

Pointless thread, there are many who support the Monarchy, and many who don’t. Nothing will change until the illegal immigrants become the majority of the population, which might not take long at this rate. Certainly it would take much longer for Parliament, The House of Lords, and the legal process to remove the Monarchy.

only another 36% of the population to go then ...........

what a crappy post - to bring illegal migration in on a thread about the monarchy. We see you and what you are trying to do there.

BTW I posted elsewhere about the Labour Govts success with record numbers repatriated on return flights elsewhere. Why do you seek to sow sedition with lies? Do you get a thrill? Maybe a semi? I can never understand whats behind it.

 

[Trickyblues]

The palace press office feeding stories or his brother? My guess a servant

My guess is Simon Case and Jason Knauf on behalf of William.