The Calais problem (merged)

Well maybe just maybe the £93bn a year that businesses are handed on a plate from the taxpayer, a transfer of more than £3,500 from each household in the UK, for grants, subsidies and tax breaks, should be enough. They would not need to do the £12bn cutbacks then would they. Also they would have £81bn to start making inroads into the record debt Britain has.

I don't for the life of me see what that has to do with not letting these immigrants in when we don't know who they are or what their motives are. As I mentioned earlier in the thread if suddenly we announce we are making big business pay for everything we might as well ring the dinner bell because if you build it they will most definitely come.
 
Abu Hamza received legal aid. If you're a savvy illegal immigrant you can knock up the local slag, the resultant bundle of joy can then be used to access that marvellous human rights act enshrined so masterfully into English law by the left's favourite baddy Tony Blair, and demand your removal from the UK be quashed as you're entitled to a 'Family life.' Once this process starts, Hey Presto! legal aid.

He wasn't an illegal immigrant though.
 
Wrong on so many levels....

Where do you reside now? IIRC Australia?...
Indeed I do - so rather than say wrong wrong wrong which lets face it anyone can say to anything . Why is it wrong , why is the world fair and why are you anything other than selfish like me or anyone else who wants to protect our lifestyle for our own benefit?

Why can Turkey and Jordan remain stable and supportive to the wears needs if left some to clear up the mess?
 
You have no idea what they are according to yorknomore



I am sure you can navigate the internet.
And yorknomore is incorrect, asylum is claimed, under EU and Worldwide law, as being the first safe haven you enter. They are all in France. As such, they can't be asylum seekers as they can claim asylum in France.

And yes, I can use the Internet, your figures are bullshit.
 
Indeed I do - so rather than say wrong wrong wrong which lets face it anyone can say to anything . Why is it wrong , why is the world fair and why are you anything other than selfish like me or anyone else who wants to protect our lifestyle for our own benefit?

Why can Turkey and Jordan remain stable and supportive to the wears needs if left some to clear up the mess?

You're missing the point that most of these are lying as to who they are and in a lot of cases are violent, this isn't a case of desperately poor people on the run far from it.
 
Someone living in Australia suggesting that the UK has the space and resources to take in more immigrants, now that's a nerve isn't it?
Australia has the space and resources to take in more immigrants too, but like the UK it would in many cases mean a slight worsening in standard of living.
 
You're missing the point that most of these are lying as to who they are and in a lot of cases are violent, this isn't a case of desperately poor people on the run far from it.
That is what you want to think, then you can pretend you are altruistic rather than accepting your own desire to protect what you have at the expense of others . but it is as true as so many convenient untruths, like most benefits recipients are scroungers, most businessmen are tax dodgers that the lazy on the left and right persist with.
 
How am I incorrect all I posted is that many disguise who they are and where they are from.
I hadn't read your post, just replying to Ken when he disagreed with my claim that they weren't asylum seekers (and he used your name).

If that's what you said, then that's correct BUT I still say they aren't asylum seekers.
 
You're missing the point that most of these are lying as to who they are and in a lot of cases are violent, this isn't a case of desperately poor people on the run far from it.
I guess you have spoken to them and researched their back ground have you it was that in the express and taken as fact?
 
That is what you want to think, then you can pretend you are altruistic rather than accepting your own desire to protect what you have at the expense of others . but it is as true as so many convenient untruths, like most benefits recipients are scroungers, most businessmen are tax dodgers that the lazy on the left and right persist with.

No I am not, these people are hiding their identity if they want in they need to tell us who they are, we don't need to take in economic migrants and we don't have a quota to fill. A lot of these people may very well be shocking criminals in their own country.
 
You can't compare the space in Australia to the space in the UK that's ridiculous.
I didn't compare I stated that Australia could take more as could nearly every country in the west . Wanting to protect what you have is not the same as not having capacity.
 
I hadn't read your post, just replying to Ken when he disagreed with my claim that they weren't asylum seekers (and he used your name).

If that's what you said, then that's correct BUT I still say they aren't asylum seekers.

I don't think they are mate but they are economic migrants in France and as soon as they hit the UK they claim asylum, like you said if they were genuine asylum seekers like they purported to be they wouldn't be ditching their passports then shaking their heads when asked where they are from. Imagine going to a country demanding to be let in without proving who you are?
 
And yorknomore is incorrect, asylum is claimed, under EU and Worldwide law, as being the first safe haven you enter. They are all in France. As such, they can't be asylum seekers as they can claim asylum in France.

And yes, I can use the Internet, your figures are bullshit.

I thought you would think that. boo hoo.
 

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