The Calais problem (merged)

[hilts]

Fucking hell!
How many of the people who land in Italy get to the Channel Tunnel?
Only a fraction

I went to Lesbos Greece on holiday a few weeks ago and there are thousands of refugees on that island that have got there by rubber dingy from Turkey

Those Turkish boat tours have gone downhill, used to be a pirate ship with ouzo and a ham roll thrown in, all for 5 Lira

 

[SWP's back]

Well the French don't want them so they're not going to stop them from entering the UK
Why should the French be patrolling the UK borders?

Why have you not posted that Turkey, Greece, Germany, Serbia, Macedonia, Austria, Croatia etc, etc are being arseholes as well for allowing them to travel through their countries

As I posted in the other thread, it's a whole European issue

You're right, the French aren't very good at patrolling borders. How did I forget?

 

[117 M34]

Should put obstacles along he tunnel and make it in to a TV show. The money made from the show would pay for heir benefits

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Economic Migrants flooding the Tunnel



the solution is in the title

 

[DiscoSteve]

Unfortunately the Schengen Agreement has just turned Europes borders into chocolate fireguards

These people need stopping before they get into Europe

Either by disuasion or enforced 'turn around' wherever they make land or before

But ultimately the message needs to be got across that "there's nothing here for you" and thus quell the demand which the traffickers are taking advantage of

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Flee persecution... Not a problem with that but persecution stops when they get out of the country they're in......not just in Britain

 

[dickie davies]

Flee persecution... Not a problem with that but persecution stops when they get out of the country they're in......not just in Britain

Last night on BBC news, they interviewed a Syrian in Calais. The guy claimed to be a dentist and he'd made his way over Europe to the tunnel
He said he was fleeing persecution and had left his wife and baby back in Syria to make the journey
Well it struck me that this meant 1 of 3 things
1- He's a callous bastard looking after himself and leaving his family in mortal danger
2- There is no persecution
3- He's a lying ****

 

[BigJoe#1]

I don't understand why we are even entertaining the prospect of considering asylum.

If these people were desperate asylum seekers they would seek asylum at the first point possible when they get to Europe. The fact they are prepared to forego this means they are not desperate, therefore we should deport them immediately back to their country of origin. It has to be that simple!

Tough maybe but necessary.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Last night on BBC news, they interviewed a Syrian in Calais. The guy claimed to be a dentist and he'd made his way over Europe to the tunnel
He said he was fleeing persecution and had left his wife and baby back in Syria to make the journey
Well it struck me that this meant 1 of 3 things
1- He's a callous bastard looking after himself and leaving his family in mortal danger
2- There is no persecution
3- He's a lying ****

That's the type of point I was making in a nicer way.

There is no need for them to end up here and nobody is putting the big question out there as to why they want to be here due to our PC world.

 

[TonyM]

I agree with deportation.

What bugs me though to add to it is that we allow free movement of EU member citizens. Why not let everyone apply for a visa. English, Irish, Polish, Nigerian. Prove you are not a convict, do some basic aptitude test, provide proof of employment and education, etc. basically the very same thing I had to do to work in the U.S. Is the fear of paperwork worth the chaos that's arisen over the past 10 years?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Really don't get the fuss over the use of the word "swarm". Saw some of the people complaining about it on Sky News last night and thought I was watching an episode of Brass Eye. Surreal.

 

[Mike N]

So, what is our fine Government going to do about it? Cameron's big idea the other day was more fences. Today, hot from the Cobra meeting, his idea is more fences and more dogs!

Good God.

 

[warspite]

Fences are a waste of time they just cut through them, a Berlin style wall needs building all the way around the terminal and beyond
If they are genuine asylum seekers they would claim asylum in the first safe Country they land in, listening to some of those interviewed they make it clear they all want to get to the UK for housing, jobs and benefits, well i'm sorry but we have enough problems of our own with these Tory fuckers in charge without more burdens on our overstretched services

 

[Blue Maverick]

We could let them onto a ferry say we are going to UK then just head to the Mediterranean

 

[blueish swede]

or let them on a ferry, take them to the UK and process their aplications for asylum the way a decent country would.

 

[Rascal]

We bomb foreign lands and wonder why people want to leave them. We help create the likes of ISIS and the Taliban and wonder why people want to leave there. As a former Imperial power on whose empire never set and on which we built the wealth of the nation we wonder why those people look to the "colonial" master when times are hard.

The claim asylum at the point of entry to the EU is silly,because If granted they can come to the UK on an EU passport without risking there lives.

Germany has taken 176,000 asylum seekers, the UK just 24,000. Whether we like it or not people on this planet see the UK as a bastion of fairness and justice ( they should read here and that notion would soon be banished from there heads) Im quite proud of how the UK is viewed abroad but our current Government is doing its best to make us look a total bunch of selfish inward looking twats.

 

[MCFCTrick]

or let them on a ferry, take them to the UK and process their aplications for asylum the way a decent country would.

Now compare the size of the countries to see the problem with these stats. The UK is too small to take more ...

 

[W12]

or let them on a ferry, take them to the UK and process their aplications for asylum the way a decent country would.

Or maybe its that most wont claim asylum but will just disapear into the underworld and the black economy. No pun intended.

 

[yorknomore]

We could let them onto a ferry say we are going to UK then just head to the Mediterranean

Is the correct answer :)

 

[blueish swede]

Now compare the size of the countries to see the problem with these stats. The UK is too small to take more ...

5% of the land area of the United Kingdom is built upon. 2% is housing, the rest industry, business, transportation etc.
You could put 10 cities the size of Manchester in the UK without anybody noticing.