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MillionMilesAway said:
Conor Burns (NI Sec) now trying to frame that there were no ongoing complaints when Pincher was given a job, so all is forgiven about past behaviour.
Also continuing this week's wheeze that the election was Johnson being elected, and not that it was the Conservatives that were elected. We don't elect PMs, but this is how the ongoing defence is being framed.
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The shrill cries of those on the right are only going to get more piercing. They know that without Johnson their hardest Brexit dreams are finished, and the threat of a General Election is as much for their colleagues as they’ll risk losing their seats.

Johnson is finished but can labour on unless the 1922 Committee removes him, yet even if he does survive for now, he has no control to legislate.
 
On this day of glorious memes & sharp political cartoons a friend of mine (the rabbit anti-Tory who became radicalised over Brexit) is sending me old Sean Lock videos (again).
 
MillionMilesAway said:
He flubbed in the middle, but I thought it was generally okay.
It can't be easy to stand up amongst your colleagues that you still work with and slating the most senior of them.
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Think he should have just stuck to the point of his resignation and withheld the personal burnishing. Bits of it were good but other bits were like an Apprentice candidate making his despairing plea to be saved.
 
Gabriel said:
The shrill cries of those on the right are only going to get more piercing. They know that without Johnson their hardest Brexit dreams are finished, and the threat of a General Election is as much for their colleagues as they’ll risk losing their seats.

Johnson is finished but can labour on unless the 1922 Committee removes him, yet even if he does survive for now, he has no control to legislate.
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The NI protocol issue is going to be interesting to say the least.
With the lying fraud being in advanced ‘lame-duck’ condition, he cannot go on with the idea that he can take on the EU and the USA over NI and the GFA. and by extension brexit itself.
Whoever takes over is going to handed the most poisoned of poisoned chalices.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
The NI protocol issue is going to be interesting to say the least.
With the lying fraud being in advanced ‘lame-duck’ condition, he cannot go on with the idea that he can take on the EU and the USA over NI and the GFA. and by extension brexit itself.
Whoever takes over is going to handed the most poisoned of poisoned chalices.
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The country is already economically goosed and it’s only going to get worse. I’m not even sure there is a candidate from within the party that has an alternative plan or could do significantly better. It’s taken many years and many mistakes to get the country where it is, and no party has the means or wherewithal to resolve that quickly. Indeed, I‘m pretty sure the Opposition parties would probably prefer to wait until 2024-25 before inheriting the mess.

Tad ironic that Johnson has been set on clobbering everyone else, yet it’s his own people that will club him to political death.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Conor Burns (NI Sec) now trying to frame that there were no ongoing complaints when Pincher was given a job, so all is forgiven about past behaviour.
Also continuing this week's wheeze that the election was Johnson being elected, and not that it was the Conservatives that were elected. We don't elect PMs, but this is how the ongoing defence is being framed.
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Yeah, talk of his "personal mandate". I'm not sure what happens is a PM does not have the confidence of a majority of MPs, but will not resign. Series 9 of The Crown, no doubt.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Conor Burns (NI Sec) now trying to frame that there were no ongoing complaints when Pincher was given a job, so all is forgiven about past behaviour.
Also continuing this week's wheeze that the election was Johnson being elected, and not that it was the Conservatives that were elected. We don't elect PMs, but this is how the ongoing defence is being framed.
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All very well the tories playing the ‘personality’ card with him, but when you put all your eggs in one Johnson shaped basket then the handles fall off and the bottom falls out they’ve only got themselves to blame when the yolks are all over their expensive hand made brogues.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
He flubbed in the middle, but I thought it was generally okay.
It can't be easy to stand up amongst your colleagues that you still work with and slating the most senior of them.
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Thought it lacked precision and was meandering; he could have really laid into Johnson or could have “killed” him quietly and ended up doing neither IMHO.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
All very well the tories playing the ‘personality’ card with him, but when you put all your eggs in one Johnson shaped basket then the handles fall off and the bottom falls out they’ve only got themselves to blame when the yolks are all over their expensive hand made brogues.
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It also leaves them with a series of mediocre replacement candidates, none of whom are backed by a sizeable number of Members let alone have electorate appeal. They’ll all be thinking ‘I’m as good as him/her’ so we’ll be back to more internal squabbles.
 
Gabriel said:
It also leaves them with a series of mediocre replacement candidates, none of whom are backed by a sizeable number of Members let alone have electorate appeal. They’ll all be thinking ‘I’m as good as him/her’ so we’ll be back to more internal squabbles.
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I’m looking forward to it!
 
johnnytapia said:
Thought it lacked precision and was meandering; he could have really laid into Johnson or could have “killed” him quietly and ended up doing neither IMHO.
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With the opportunity he had, it was a wasted speech. It needed to be short and to the point. He started okay, but needed to go from his own experiences and values straight into why Boris' didn't align and then hammer home why change was needed. Instead he ended up having to go back over old ground in order to conclude because of a rambling few minutes where I lost his chain of thought and the point.
 
I know the BBC has to remain impartial, but how have they found anyone who can offer support for Boris. Jane in Sevenoaks has said:

"Every media outlet, on the radio, on the TV channels, has been gunning for Boris for months. We’ve been brainwashed into believing he’s horrendous. He’s done really well in Ukraine. He’s done brilliantly with the vaccine."

That's good enough to have come straight from Boris' mouth. He's brought it all on himself Jane you idiotic ****.
 
supercity88 said:
I know the BBC has to remain impartial, but how have they found anyone who can offer support for Boris. Jane in Sevenoaks has said:

"Every media outlet, on the radio, on the TV channels, has been gunning for Boris for months. We’ve been brainwashed into believing he’s horrendous. He’s done really well in Ukraine. He’s done brilliantly with the vaccine."

That's good enough to have come straight from Boris' mouth. He's brought it all on himself Jane you idiotic ****.
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Think she rang into the vine show this morning , word for word
 
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