The Conservative Party

Gabriel said:
One would think so, though over time there would likely be a reshaping of the two ‘main’ parties, with independent parties leaving to appear further to the left and right, respectively.
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Can we not just have a common sense party .. it’d make life so easier for all ;)
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Unless there are ulterior motives.
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When due consideration is given to the variuos papers and books written by our leading politicians now installed in the Cabinet, the economy is being helped on its way to the vision they have. Crush it, collapse the welfare state, make a few bob along the way from disaster capitalism, then rebuild it the way they think it should be organised.

Johnson refused to have the OBR produce it's impact statement into the effects of Brexit. Truss is refusing any OBR assessments. That can be seen as reckless, or a single minded determination in pursuuit ideology.

Theyre not flying blind. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
NPBlue said:
When due consideration is given to the variuos papers and books written by our leading politicians now installed in the Cabinet, the economy is being helped on its way to the vision they have. Crush it, collapse the welfare state, make a few bob along the way from disaster capitalism, then rebuild it the way they think it should be organised.

Johnson refused to have the OBR produce it's impact statement into the effects of Brexit. Truss is refusing any OBR assessments. That can be seen as reckless, or a single minded determination in pursuuit ideology.

Theyre not flying blind. They know exactly what they are doing.
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Totally agree.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Mate, some people are benefitting from this. Especially those that have their pensions in shares.

Talking to a couple of the elder, they don’t take others into account as there’s are a little bit older and doing quite well.

I find it strange as I don’t do shares, I make sure it’s shared around with my kids/family. Why wouldn’t you want to share, why would you allow somebody to make a profit on your hard earned?
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Some of my money is in a pension fund and that has lost thousands of pounds over the last few years: so don't be misled that some if us are raking it in.
 
hampshireblue said:
But if they accept that they are done for in 2 years time, why put up anyone with an iota of talent to try to save it? Who knows, only time will tell.
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I can see that, but they have a large majorty, and could still be in power after a large swing, or at least in a coalition.
Not pulling your weight in an election isn't goimg to sit well with the rank and file, either.
 
Fred_Quimby said:
Some of my money is in a pension fund and that has lost thousands of pounds over the last few years: so don't be misled that some if us are raking it in.
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I get it, mate. One of the charities that I I’m a trustee of has just had about 200,000 wiped out from it. What I am saying is that people will make decisions on their own personal circumstances.
 
hampshireblue said:
But if they accept that they are done for in 2 years time, why put up anyone with an iota of talent to try to save it? Who knows, only time will tell.
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The Tory think tank is playing a dangerous game with all out futures. Push some half wit in as new PM. Encourage her to take a desperate gamble by spending money we don’t have based purely on the chance the gamble comes off and it’s a master stroke. If and more likely the gamble doesn’t come off, they lose the GE and into No 10 walks Starmer to deal with the mother of all shit shows. 2 years later after a vote of no confidence Starmer goes to the country, loses and Bozo returns as PM. What a f*****g nightmare - problem is it could happen.
 
woody1968 said:
The Tory think tank is playing a dangerous game with all out futures. Push some half wit in as new PM. Encourage her to take a desperate gamble by spending money we don’t have based purely on the chance the gamble comes off and it’s a master stroke. If and more likely the gamble doesn’t come off, they lose the GE and into No 10 walks Starmer to deal with the mother of all shit shows. 2 years later after a vote of no confidence Starmer goes to the country, loses and Bozo returns as PM. What a f*****g nightmare - problem is it could happen.
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Don’t disagree but this chain of events tends to happen with each change of government.

Certainly did in 1979 and 2010, with 1997 being the exception.
 
A57 the snake said:
Can we not just have a common sense party .. it’d make life so easier for all ;)
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most common sensed people don't vote - they are ambivalent because they see politics as the natural habitat of rabid loonies these days and would rather not engage - which is of course why we are where we are but that suits most politicians down to the ground
 
bluethrunthru said:
most common sensed people don't vote - they are ambivalent because they see politics as the natural habitat of rabid loonies these days and would rather not engage - which is of course why we are where we are but that suits most politicians down to the ground
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If common sense was indeed common, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.
 
My wankstain of an MP auditioning for the Job Centre again - he is so detached from here he has no concept of how much he is hated now

 
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