The Conservative Party

The perfect fumble said:
we did not play the national anthem at every sporting event, we did not have a military parade through the capital every year.
Click to expand...
Oh right, so never at Wembley, and the Queen's birthday celebration is not combined with parades by the Army, Navy or Air force every year, as well as
numerous other military parades.
Extinction Rebellion hasn't taken over these duties just yet.
The perfect fumble said:
Whatever sneering that is taking place has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with how it is being exploited. The Tories have always sought to monopolise patriotism and love of country, they love wrapping themselves in the flag and they stole the national anthem for their conference a long time ago.
Click to expand...
The Labour party used to sing that 'Red Flag' choon, do they still do it at conferences, or is it now seen as a tad communisty?
After Tone scrapped clause 4 it would be a bit buttock clenching though, like Jacob Rees Mogg doing Stormzy.
A EU fanatic like you must cringe at the emblems that abound, and their
not even a country FFS.
The Labour party, at inception, did not resemble what Corbyn turned it into,
patriotism was imbued, not so now, as Keir has realised, and is trying, unsuccessfully, to rectify.
The perfect fumble said:
You have taken something that should unify us and made it your own. You've not exactly burned the flag you've wiped your arse with it and then wonder why the rest of us seem reluctant to wrap ourselves in it.
Click to expand...
Ah, the 'Unity' argument.
Construed as ''I'm fucking pissed off why people refuse to think like I do, if they did we'd be unified.''
They don't, so your version of unity is not on the table.
You are, and continue to do, apportioning all flag supporters as Tories, they're not, we keep hearing about the working class being shafted, used, taken for fools, misinformed, idiots, etc; etc; all this emanates from a large section the left. The workers hear this, they respond, and they completely reject it.
It is these working people you, once again, disparage, they are the ones who love what you hate, they don't conform, and I'm glad of that.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
''How and why the flag is used'' is an interpretation by the left to denigrate it. The point of these pics is to prove that the overwhelming majority of the world's populace support and display their country's flag, if you don't think
or believe that, go to France, the US, Spain, Japan, China, Italy, in fact anywhere on earth. The leaders of these countries regularly sit, or stand when making speeches with their country's emblems around them, we are no different.
The sneering at the flag, always accompanied by disparaging comments about its supporters doesn't go unnoticed by the Brits, all those involved in it will then look open jawed at the exit polls at elections, and fail to understand why they're once again, rejected. Nothing is learned however, and the rage and frustration increases in volume, it's wonderful looking at it all on here, to be honest, my amazement is that so called intelligent individuals cannot see the wood for the trees. Starmer, although being completely disingenuous, has at least tried to stymie this Corbynista worldview, but unfortunately for him, and his party, the public isn't buying it, Labour are now even more behind than before, Johnson has actually increased his popularity.
At some point mate, if you want a labour administration a massive change in outlook is required, the party was never like this in its inception.
Click to expand...
You might be ancient but you weren't there at the inception of the Labour party. I don't think we lefties need lessons in labour history from you.

When was its inception anyway? No union flags at Peterloo.
 
Last edited:
Vic said:
You might be ancient but you weren't there at the inception of the Labour party. I don't think we lefties need lessons in labour history from you.

When was its inception anyway? No union flags at Peterloo.
Click to expand...
Without checking, Peterloo was around the early nineteenth century, the Labour party formed around the early twentieth. Check out a great Labour hero, Atlee, you'll be surprised at his views around patriotism.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Without checking, Peterloo was around the early nineteenth century, the Labour party formed around the early twentieth. Check out a great Labour hero, Atlee, you'll be surprised at his views around patriotism.
Click to expand...
Why would I be surprised?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
✖
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.