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There may have been occasions when England didn’t sing a national anthem before sporting events because England doesn’t have a national anthem. Our nationality is British, not English. And our national anthem is the national anthem of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not England.Oh right, so never at Wembley, and the Queen's birthday celebration is not combined with parades by the Army, Navy or Air force every year, as well as
numerous other military parades.
Extinction Rebellion hasn't taken over these duties just yet.
The Labour party used to sing that 'Red Flag' choon, do they still do it at conferences, or is it now seen as a tad communisty?
After Tone scrapped clause 4 it would be a bit buttock clenching though, like Jacob Rees Mogg doing Stormzy.
A EU fanatic like you must cringe at the emblems that abound, and their
not even a country FFS.
The Labour party, at inception, did not resemble what Corbyn turned it into,
patriotism was imbued, not so now, as Keir has realised, and is trying, unsuccessfully, to rectify.
Ah, the 'Unity' argument.
Construed as ''I'm fucking pissed off why people refuse to think like I do, if they did we'd be unified.''
They don't, so your version of unity is not on the table.
You are, and continue to do, apportioning all flag supporters as Tories, they're not, we keep hearing about the working class being shafted, used, taken for fools, misinformed, idiots, etc; etc; all this emanates from a large section the left. The workers hear this, they respond, and they completely reject it.
It is these working people you, once again, disparage, they are the ones who love what you hate, they don't conform, and I'm glad of that.
This might be a good read for a few:
“The British Labour Party has at times been a force for radical change in the UK, but one critical aspect of its makeup has been consistently misunderstood and underplayed: its Britishness. Throughout the party's history, its Britishness has been an integral part of how it has done politics, acted in government and opposition, and understood the UK and its nations and regions. The People's Flag and the Union Jack is the first comprehensive account of how Labour has tried to understand Britain and Britishness and to compete in a political landscape defined by conservative notions of nation, patriotism and tradition. At a time when many of the party faithful regard national identity as a toxic subject, academics Gerry Hassan and Eric Shaw argue that Labour's Britishness and its ambiguous relationship with issues of nationalism matter more today than ever before, and will continue to matter for the foreseeable future, when the UK is in fundamental crisis. As debate rages about Brexit, and the prospect of Scottish independence remains live, this timely intervention, featuring contributions from a wealth of pioneering thinkers, offers an illuminating and perceptive insight into Labour's past, present and future.”
Blair was big on the flag, and so were the Labour supporters and voters in the late 90s:
Mods were British iconography mad
Britpop and Oasis were early doors
It was everywhere in 2012 for the Olympics
Normal people with normal moderate views really like it when the national flag and national iconography is flown and used proudly. It’s not nationalistic, it’s just patriotic. My Friday socks for work are union flag socks, I have a cool umbrella from CT shirts with the union flag on the inside.
It’s good to see the Govt want to fly the flag. It’s got nothing to do with Fascism that they’re doing it, no matter how much tenuous rubbish anyone wants to link the Govt’s actions with fascism. Despite me thinking it’s a good thing they want to fly the flag, it will never make me vote for them, it doesn’t make me like their political ideology; nor will it most people who don’t vote for them.
However, I think since Corbyn and his mob were around, the left have hated all this sort of thing. All of a sudden, even though Britishness is a key feature of the Labour Party, the left are “internationalists” these days, some consider themselves “European” and love all the EU iconography and flag, and in some instances are actually anti-British.
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