The Conservative Party

Fode N The Hole said:
I said developed, I said nothing about age. It lacked clarity but you misread it.

She was taught to speak a certain way and I'm sure she put her own input into it.As a child of Jamaican immigrants I'm sure she know there was a price to be paid for speaking or not speaking a certain way.
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what age do you go to Uni? One must therefore assume that you think between school/6th form she changed the way she spoke in order to get into Cambridge as thats what you typed.

By the way you seem to be assuming that all Jamaican immigrants and their children spoke some sort of cross between Jamaican patois with a Bob Marley like accent. Or that all people from London speak with a Cockney accent I have spoke to many black people who have come to the UK who - compared with my accent - would be considered to "talk posh". It could be that Diane Abbott has always spoken like that?
 
East Level 2 said:
You don't get a degree from Cambridge by being thick. But she does find it difficult to think on her feet even when facing questions from fairly benign interviewers.
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I've worked with a few Oxbridge people.
Some clever but the majority no better than average. Privileged background and an attitude problem common traits.

Have also worked with a few working class people who have been sharp as a tack and got where they were by overcoming their individual circumstances. Including yours truly.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
It wasn't an easy choice, but I didn't like the way Labour was going under Corbyn and more than likely wanted to prevent him winning, so that's my only way of expressing it. Sadly we only get two serious candidates around here. I'll always use my vote though.
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Fair one, mate, and that’s why we have a democracy.
 
Bigga said:
But, somehow, you managed to find enough trust in the Tories who have consistently and systematically destroyed this country when they've been in power?

Okey doke.
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I never trust ANY politician, but also I must live in the part of the country which hasn't been destroyed.
 
bluethrunthru said:
what age do you go to Uni? One must therefore assume that you think between school/6th form she changed the way she spoke in order to get into Cambridge as thats what you typed.

By the way you seem to be assuming that all Jamaican immigrants and their children spoke some sort of cross between Jamaican patois with a Bob Marley like accent. Or that all people from London speak with a Cockney accent I have spoke to many black people who have come to the UK who - compared with my accent - would be considered to "talk posh". It could be that Diane Abbott has always spoken like that?
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No I think you develop a certain voice if you go to a certain type school, whether it is unconscious or conscious or more likely a combination of the two. I didn't apply judgement on her for doing this.

If you are going to continue posting this nonsense and making assumptions about what I think without evidence then I might use stronger words back and tell you to get lost.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Come on which of you gave this lot a majority in 2019? Your health and your livelihood put in the hands of people who were more concerned about writing books about Shakespeare and fingering some bird they fancied at uni. Oh well we got our brexit though.
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I hold my hand up Brexit. the main reason I voted for them and secondly the alternative just didn’t appeal

sorry I did now though
 
kaz7 said:
Hancock broke the rules and got covid early on and cant keep his dick in his pants whilst people couldnt hug their grannies

The state of the fucking tories and boris

Jesus christ , well done tory voters
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I like him more than I ever did. He has had the most difficult job of any cabinet secretary since the war I should imagine. Everyone needs a break. If his is getting knocked off in what he thought was a discreet office then good for him I say. Forza Hancock, secret shagger
 
People STILL talking about last election?

What now. Always, the question is - what now.

The future begins now. You cannot touch the past in any way. Cannot change a single thing. You can't change what other people did. You can't even change the way they experienced it. It's written in their mind now. As are your memories. I mean, you can change what they think about it next time it comes up, a tiny bit. But that's so difficult. And it involves genuinely understanding them, in a way that people just don't do to anybody - it's the kind of understanding you probably get on very rare occassions when someone and you really click. Trying to do politics that way? Persuade people by saying, 'Why did you'? and then saying 'well I knew it didn't make sense'.

It's. A. Total. Waste. Of. Effort.

We're into politics to do things NOW. For all the tomorrows.

What now?

Labour people especially. Javid strengthens Boris's cabinet quite a bit. The least of them has been replaced by the one who originally looked the strongest.

What now? Ask everyone why they are such stupid cunts for not voting Corbyn? Again? Can they vote for him now?

No. Labour needs to get it's act together. I'm so disappointed in Kier. His one chance now is that we get a third lockdown before winter. That could end Boris. Not a lot else will, not in the foreseeable. Anything else, he'll regroup. If that's the case, Kier doesn't have anything. No message that I get. You could probably find an ally in me.

But only if we stop this stupid game of pretending to persuade people by saying you were wrong we weren't wrong it was unfair. Persuading people by saying they don't understand you, trying to convince them you understand that they never made any sense anyway not even to themselves.

You. Are. Not. Listening. You. Are. Stuck. In. A. Moment. That. Happened. To. You. Not. Them.

It. Is. Over.

I was stuck in the referendum. Stuck in Brexit. Stuck in May last year. Stuck in December and January this year. Stuck in how I felt and how other people acted.

There's no going back. What happened to the world is what happened to the world. What I thought and what I felt was my business - no-one else can ever do much about that.

What people did is what they did. It made sense to them.

We're all unrealiable, all guessing. We just do what seems to make sense. All trying to pretend we really know. We don't. I didn't. And anyone can be wrong.

They won't take my demands for things that would make me feel better or more trusting about what happened, and I don't even know what I'd want from them anyway. No point me telling them anything about a moment that's gone. Not now. Later. When it's calm. Because that was ALL of us.

Brexit, the election - those were votes. Where we made our own decisions. It happens every few years. There is no way on god's earth I can hope to change them ready for next time by saying i got it right you were wrong. Because it's not clear what else would have happened if it had gone differently because it didn't. It's all in our head. All a guess, a hope, a prediction, a projection at best. At worst it's a lie to ourselves.

People know that instinctively. Stop trying to tell them otherwise.

Brexit is done. No point arguing now. I never thought I'd say that. But it's true.

And so are all the other things that have happened. All those moments.

They

are

Over.



So.

What now?
 
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