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Chris in London said:
It’s not defamatory. She doesn’t actually allege anything. She just hints at it, and you’d only get the hint if you knew o the rumour anyway.
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Legally, are you so sure? (Tolley v Fry...)

"I'm not saying the minister is an adulterer, but does his wife know?" sounds fairly defamatory to me.
 
Summerbuzz said:
People STILL talking about last election?

What now. Always, the question is - what now.

The future begins now. You cannot touch the past in any way. Cannot change a single thing. You can't change what other people did. You can't even change the way they experienced it. It's written in their mind now. As are your memories. I mean, you can change what they think about it next time it comes up, a tiny bit. But that's so difficult. And it involves genuinely understanding them, in a way that people just don't do to anybody - it's the kind of understanding you probably get on very rare occassions when someone and you really click. Trying to do politics that way? Persuade people by saying, 'Why did you'? and then saying 'well I knew it didn't make sense'.

It's. A. Total. Waste. Of. Effort.

We're into politics to do things NOW. For all the tomorrows.

What now?

Labour people especially. Javid strengthens Boris's cabinet quite a bit. The least of them has been replaced by the one who originally looked the strongest.

What now? Ask everyone why they are such stupid cunts for not voting Corbyn? Again? Can they vote for him now?

No. Labour needs to get it's act together. I'm so disappointed in Kier. His one chance now is that we get a third lockdown before winter. That could end Boris. Not a lot else will, not in the foreseeable. Anything else, he'll regroup. If that's the case, Kier doesn't have anything. No message that I get. You could probably find an ally in me.

But only if we stop this stupid game of pretending to persuade people by saying you were wrong we weren't wrong it was unfair. Persuading people by saying they don't understand you, trying to convince them you understand that they never made any sense anyway not even to themselves.

You. Are. Not. Listening. You. Are. Stuck. In. A. Moment. That. Happened. To. You. Not. Them.

It. Is. Over.

I was stuck in the referendum. Stuck in Brexit. Stuck in May last year. Stuck in December and January this year. Stuck in how I felt and how other people acted.

There's no going back. What happened to the world is what happened to the world. What I thought and what I felt was my business - no-one else can ever do much about that.

What people did is what they did. It made sense to them.

We're all unrealiable, all guessing. We just do what seems to make sense. All trying to pretend we really know. We don't. I didn't. And anyone can be wrong.

They won't take my demands for things that would make me feel better or more trusting about what happened, and I don't even know what I'd want from them anyway. No point me telling them anything about a moment that's gone. Not now. Later. When it's calm. Because that was ALL of us.

Brexit, the election - those were votes. Where we made our own decisions. It happens every few years. There is no way on god's earth I can hope to change them ready for next time by saying i got it right you were wrong. Because it's not clear what else would have happened if it had gone differently because it didn't. It's all in our head. All a guess, a hope, a prediction, a projection at best. At worst it's a lie to ourselves.

People know that instinctively. Stop trying to tell them otherwise.

Brexit is done. No point arguing now. I never thought I'd say that. But it's true.

And so are all the other things that have happened. All those moments.

They

are

Over.



So.

What now?
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An interesting thesis. Let down by the idea that Brexit is done. Eventually it will be obvious that Brexit has done for us. 40 years of tabloid nonsense about the EU to get us where we are, and you expect people just to have another 40 years without saying it was the wrong thing to do? Latest YouGov poll says - even after the vaccine "success" - that 48% say we were wrong to leave the EU. (40% right, the rest want to wait 50 years before they know.)
 
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Fode N The Hole said:
Yes. I have heard it before.

Sounds quite like Portillo in this video.

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Not sure about the Portaloo similarity however PMSL at 14 secs in........one thing that Tesco's behind him doesn't feature is pantiles but the following reference to gammon sent me over the edge....... is this satire that was filmed last week? Everything he complains about here he embraces now.
 
kaz7 said:
Poor cow

Support for the minister had been dwindling after it emerged he told his wife he was leaving her on Thursday shortly after he learned that his affair with married Coladangelo was about to be exposed.

Martha Hancock had no idea her husband was having an affair until he broke the news and announced that their marriage was over, reports the Times.
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I said previously on this thread there are two spouse's and in all 6 kids hit by this too - selfish

www.thesun.co.uk

Matt Hancock mistress Gina Coladangelo pictured packing car as affair revealed

THE Health Secretary’s mistress loaded bags into her car hours after learning her affair would be exposed. Gina Coladangelo, 43, then drove off in her £70,000 Audi Q7 from outside her £3.6million f…
www.thesun.co.uk www.thesun.co.uk
 
Manchester_lalala said:
What a laughing stock these politicians are. Diane Abbott is the thickest politician ever to speak yet here she is point scoring on fucking Twitter. It’s the reason why I don’t vote anymore. These posh bellends have no say on my life and thank fuck that is the case.
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The reason you don't vote anymore is because you have bought the propaganda that tells you to either not vote or vote against your own interests.

Diane Abbott is not thick, she went to Cambridge and got a degree in History, just like George Osborne. she is a working class woman from Paddington in London, certainly not posh. The media portray her as thick because she got figures wrong on TV.

Whats worse, getting figures wrong on TV or Shagging behind your wife's back with a woman you employed using taxpayers money.
 
Handwank is probably more in trouble by his use of his personal email account for government business. This has allowed him to discuss and deliver contracts without scrutiny.
 
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