Only way I see anything other than a Tory victory is if an anti-Tory coalition be formed and come across as credible. More people don't vote Tory than do, so it's got legs as an idea, but needs work that no one has been prepared to put in before.
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Only way I see anything other than a Tory victory is if an anti-Tory coalition be formed and come across as credible. More people don't vote Tory than do, so it's got legs as an idea, but needs work that no one has been prepared to put in before.
It would take a hell of a lot of work and you’d need the SNP on board, which I cannot see happening.Only way I see anything other than a Tory victory is if an anti-Tory coalition be formed and come across as credible. More people don't vote Tory than do, so it's got legs as an idea, but needs work that no one has been prepared to put in before.
Labour-Libs-Green maybe but not SNP unless something radically changes, such as an independence vote that is a NO result.
The former isn’t enough to win either.
bluethrunthru
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All Labour MP's attending todays debates wore masks in the chamber - only 6 Tories did thus showing their selfish and callous disregard for their colleagues health and welfare
It would take a hell of a lot of work and you’d need the SNP on board, which I cannot see happening.
Labour-Libs-Green maybe but not SNP unless something radically changes, such as an independence vote that is a NO result.
The former isn’t enough to win either.
Lab - Lib - Green polled more votes in England than the Tories, but that doesn't take into account FPTP, so it might not have resulted in electoral success. As you say, would need a lot of work on how to campaign effectively which I don't see happening. Pity, as it would probably be the best route out of an FPTP system.
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Tories being selfish pricks?All Labour MP's attending todays debates wore masks in the chamber - only 6 Tories did thus showing their selfish and callous disregard for their colleagues health and welfare
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journolud
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When tories speak it’s usually poisonous bile, I can understand they wouldn’t want to ingest it, better out than in is probably their thinkingAll Labour MP's attending todays debates wore masks in the chamber - only 6 Tories did thus showing their selfish and callous disregard for their colleagues health and welfare
hilts
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There was a story on the news today about a chap whose father had died and mother had dementia. The house will have to be sold to pay for her care. Initial thought was sympathy then I thought it’s probably the way we may have to go and the son was obviously pissed his inheritance is getting battered. Maybe instead of inheritance tax we should have a max inheritance amount.
Spend it or lose it.
Spend it or lose it.
bluethrunthru
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There was a story on the news today about a chap whose father had died and mother had dementia. The house will have to be sold to pay for her care. Initial thought was sympathy then I thought it’s probably the way we may have to go and the son was obviously pissed his inheritance is getting battered. Maybe instead of inheritance tax we should have a max inheritance amount.
Spend it or lose it.
Or find a way to move it offshore - those who can afford to pay creative accountants and tax advisers will always find a way. The reason wealth taxes can work is because you can't physically lift a £5m house or a £50m factory off shore. Just make it illegal to move the value of the asset surely?
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The problem is that it again plays into the hands of those who are already wealthy. There are too many wrappers e.g trust funds and more complex avoidance schemes are available which perpetuate inter-generational family wealth.There was a story on the news today about a chap whose father had died and mother had dementia. The house will have to be sold to pay for her care. Initial thought was sympathy then I thought it’s probably the way we may have to go and the son was obviously pissed his inheritance is getting battered. Maybe instead of inheritance tax we should have a max inheritance amount.
Spend it or lose it.
What it would do is drive the wealth divide even further apart. If they had a threshold it would inevitably be set at a level which catches the average earners net worth at death.
hilts
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Or find a way to move it offshore - those who can afford to pay creative accountants and tax advisers will always find a way. The reason wealth taxes can work is because you can't physically lift a £5m house or a £50m factory off shore. Just make it illegal to move the value of the asset surely?
My instinct has always been against wealth taxes on houses but social care is such a huge issue that has been left to ruin then I don’t believe anything but a pretty big change will be enough. You would need to bypass the 7 year rule but the main problem is how can any government have such a policy when it will mean losing an election.
Theresa May tried to address the problem and middle England and above lost their minds.