The Conservative Party

[Mr Kobayashi]

Public schools are the likes of Eaton. You can't just apply for your kids to go, you have to go through a selection process. The money and fact you have to pay isn't the reason that you'd send anyone here, it's more about prestige.

Private schools are just independent schools open to anyone who wants to pay for a private education. These are used typically used by people who do very well in their jobs and want to send their kids to be educated privately. It isn't about prestige or mixing in with toffs or anything like that as with public schools.

It is. Just less prestigious . There's a hierarchy among the schools but they still place themselves above state education.

You can still be "one of us" , just not one of the smaller circle that went to the more exclusive schools.

Most people who go to state schools don't list their secondary school on their LinkedIn but independently educated people do.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

So ‘public’ school is a misnomer.
They are far from Public and are in fact Private?

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

So ‘public’ school is a misnomer.
They are far from Public and are in fact Private?

It comes from the fact that the original public schools were set up as benevolent funds to educate boys from all social classes in the local area.

Upper classes and upper middle classes then hijacked the system to turn into a closed shop based on social status.

 

[inbetween]

So ‘public’ school is a misnomer.
They are far from Public and are in fact Private?

Yes they're basically the same to a degree, they're called public schools because anyone can come and attend from anywhere in the world and the kids are usually boarded at the school too.

Private schools are more for rich people who want their kids to be privately educated locally instead of at a state school (for example because they'll have smaller class sizes and be better resourced than state schools).

Public schools are associated with prestige and have selection requirements whereas private schools are usually only associated with the fact that you have to pay but that's about it.

City players will probably send their kids to local private schools in Cheshire but they probably wouldn't send them to a boarded public school like Eton.

 

[Gabriel]

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Public/private schools are charities, that means they don’t pay VAT. Do they, like other charities,ie Oxfam, get to apply Gift Aid on fees and private donations if they have had tax paid on the amount? If so that is a whopping extra 25% in income given them by us from the treasury.

 

[domalino]

Yes they're basically the same to a degree, they're called public schools because anyone can come and attend from anywhere in the world and the kids are usually boarded at the school too.

Private schools are more for rich people who want their kids to be privately educated locally instead of at a state school (for example because they'll have smaller class sizes and be better resourced than state schools).

Public schools are associated with prestige and have selection requirements whereas private schools are usually only associated with the fact that you have to pay but that's about it.

City players will probably send their kids to local private schools in Cheshire but they probably wouldn't send them to a boarded public school like Eton.

These days the terms all overlap but I think boarding is probably the biggest differentiator in what you’d call a public school vs an independent/private.


The original reason they were called public schools is because of the public schools act, which set up a load of rules governing them because Eton had fallen into disrepair and they weren’t teaching the kids anything except Greek and Latin, and there were a lot of concerned former pupils worried it wouldn’t be around to send their kids and grandkids to.

The original 7 governed by that act were all boarding schools, while a couple of others escaped legislation by arguing they were private schools and weren’t all board.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Public/private schools are charities, that means they don’t pay VAT. Do they, like other charities,ie Oxfam, get to apply Gift Aid on fees and private donations if they have had tax paid on the amount? If so that is a whopping extra 25% in income given them by us from the treasury.

Taken from HMRC. Fortunately not eligible for gift aid.

Donations to schools, charities involved in running schools and Educational Trusts​

Only voluntary gifts or payments are eligible for Gift Aid. Simply describing a payment as ‘voluntary’ or a ‘donation’ does not make it eligible for Gift Aid.

If access to educational services or facilities provided by a school requires parents or relatives of students to make a payment, payments are not ‘voluntary’ and therefore they are not charitable donations.

If parents or relatives are asked to make ‘voluntary contribution’ payments to a school or school charity, which are linked to the provision of services or facilities to related pupils, they are not charitable donations. Payments made for the following are not eligible for Gift Aid:

• tuition fees
• school holidays
• extra-curricular activities
• lessons
• educational trips
• tickets for a school production

This is because these payments are not voluntary gifts, and a student receives a benefit paid for by a relative.

Donations made to an appeal or for a specific charitable purpose of the school, may be eligible for Gift Aid. Donations must not be linked to the provision of any benefit to a student related to a donor. Donations given for the following will usually qualify for Gift Aid:

• non-uniform days
• sponsored events
• building appeals
• equipment appeals

 

[Cricket Blue]

Let's face it the unions are running the country more or less at the moment
It's becoming farcical this now

 

[bluethrunthru]

Let's face it the unions are running the country more or less at the moment
It's becoming farcical this now

If the Unions were running the country there would be no strikes as the pay settlement requests would be met

 

[bluethrunthru]

I was thinking they had lost this womans vote to Reform UK but the more I listened I think she is veering towards Monster Raving Loony but I doubt they would have her

LBC caller continuously argues with James O'Brien about immigration | LBC

This caller told James O'Brien "you can't say what you want in this country without being called a racist" after she complains about asylum seekers.

www.lbc.co.uk

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Let's face it the unions are running the country more or less at the moment
It's becoming farcical this now

And the reason why?

Maybe because the Tories have squeezed the country so tight, in order to look after the rich, that there’s nowhere left for people to go. They are startling the country and bleeding it dry, we’re near enough on life support.

 

[Cricket Blue]

If the Unions were running the country there would be no strikes as the pay settlement requests would be met

And the reason why?

Maybe because the Tories have squeezed the country so tight, in order to look after the rich, that there’s nowhere left for people to go. They are startling the country and bleeding it dry, we’re near enough on life support.

I respect your post and the reasons to strike but I don't fully agree with all of them to be honest.
We are just recovering from a pandemic and we have had the Ukraine war.
Eveyone is struggling, I've not had a pay rise for 3 years I have to get on with it or lose my job.
Love to know where people think the government can get the money from. The agenda here is from the unions trying to bring the government down.

 

[joe123]

I respect your post and the reasons to strike but I don't fully agree with all of them to be honest.
We are just recovering from a pandemic and we have had the Ukraine war.
Eveyone is struggling, I've not had a pay rise for 3 years I have to get on with it or lose my job.
Love to know where people think the government can get the money from. The agenda here is from the unions trying to bring the government down.

I think the agenda is people are sick to death of declining living standards, and are using the means available to them to try and improve their lot. It's as simple as that.

I'm in the private sector. Bought a house a couple of years ago, had a kid last year. Was a bit concerned about finances and went and got another job. I'm not saying it's that simple for everyone, but it was me making the most of what I could to get more cash. I don't begrudge any union member doing whatever they have to in order to get their raise.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I respect your post and the reasons to strike but I don't fully agree with all of them to be honest.
We are just recovering from a pandemic and we have had the Ukraine war.
Eveyone is struggling, I've not had a pay rise for 3 years I have to get on with it or lose my job.
Love to know where people think the government can get the money from. The agenda here is from the unions trying to bring the government down.

Go be a bus driver - most of them have got 12% this year most of them took industrial action.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

I was thinking they had lost this womans vote to Reform UK but the more I listened I think she is veering towards Monster Raving Loony but I doubt they would have her

LBC caller continuously argues with James O'Brien about immigration | LBC

This caller told James O'Brien "you can't say what you want in this country without being called a racist" after she complains about asylum seekers.

www.lbc.co.uk

It was breathtaking wasn’t it?
It was a compendium of every lie and smear about asylum seekers and refugees ever published in theMail/Express, almost like a parody of a script from ‘Tiil death us do Part’ except the poor woman believed it all.

 

[Cricket Blue]

I think the agenda is people are sick to death of declining living standards, and are using the means available to them to try and improve their lot. It's as simple as that.

I'm in the private sector. Bought a house a couple of years ago, had a kid last year. Was a bit concerned about finances and went and got another job. I'm not saying it's that simple for everyone, but it was me making the most of what I could to get more cash. I don't begrudge any union member doing whatever they have to in order to get their raise.

Neither do I but some of the demands are not reasonable. I'd love a 1% rise but im not going to get one.

 

[johnnytapia]

I respect your post and the reasons to strike but I don't fully agree with all of them to be honest.
We are just recovering from a pandemic and we have had the Ukraine war.
Eveyone is struggling, I've not had a pay rise for 3 years I have to get on with it or lose my job.
Love to know where people think the government can get the money from. The agenda here is from the unions trying to bring the government down.

 

[johnnytapia]

If the unions were running the country you’d have got a pay rise.

 

[domalino]

Neither do I but some of the demands are not reasonable. I'd love a 1% rise but im not going to get one.

It’s unreasonable for nurses to want to earn more than a supermarket assistant? To want to leave their shifts on time and not wait 2-4 hours for the agency replacement to arrive? For them to have enough coworkers on shift that they can take a break to eat on a 12 hour shift?