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Sleaze ain't going away Tory boys- defend that

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Daily Mail Front Page 11th of November 2021 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

Sir Geoffrey Cox earned more than £5.5 million from his work as a lawyer while he was an MP, the Daily Mail reveals.

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Guardian Front Page 11th of November 2021 - Tomorrow's Papers Today!

Sir Geoffrey Cox has earned at least £6 million from his second job since he entered parliament, Guardian analysis reveals.

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Tory party vice-chair Andrew Bowie resigns in protest over sleaze

MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine becomes first party figure to step down as a matter of conscience over scandal

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Rochdale councillor leaves fourth party citing Tory sleaze

Kathleen Nickson, who has represented four parties on Rochdale Council, will now be an independent.

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How many people care about it?

I know we are on here disgusted with it all, but it's the teflon tories and they are masters of deflection.

It will all be forgotten about in a few weeks when the real enemy of the UK, the EUSSR, take centre stage and they exact their revenge on us.

The tories need an enemy at the moment to boost their ratings because an election is looming before the real effects of their 'build back better' brexit is laid bare for all to see when import controls have to be implemented.

Geoffrey Cox, a QC and former Lord Chancellor, the loudest voice in the House of Commons during the brexit debates, had to take legal advice from the chief whip so he could swan off to his sunny island and earn his money. Really?

He covered his back, and that's the only reason he asked him.

They are all bent as a nine bob note, there are countless breaches of the ministerial code from all and sundry running our country at the moment, and it doesn't mean a jot to them because no one really gives a damm about it.

They lie and cheat because they know they can get away with it.

Tory boys- defend that?

They don't give a shit, and they won't even try.

 

[Rascal]

How short is thy memory - the 2009 cash for influence scandal ring any bells?

There are around 15 former union leaders also sitting in the lords having donated millions to the Labour Party. Along with business men/women who have also donated millions to the Labour Party. All appointed in last 20 years.

In summary I don’t think anyone can claim the moral high ground. Certainly not the tories or labour

And that is also disgusting.

Money should not be able to buy political appointments.

This current lot though are way above anything i have ever seen.

 

[Rascal]

As to my post, I was merely correcting @Rascal whom is toiling under some misapprehensions about corruption being an exclusively Tory thing. It isn’t.

It is however an overwhelming majority this particular Government thing.

There has always been bad apples, this Government has a full orchard.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You want to give Boris a quarter of a million a year for being shit? Fuck that they get enough.

Indeed. The idea that 80-odd grand isn't enough so we'll need to pay them to avoid them having second jobs is a piss take. They should be banned from having second jobs anyway. They should also be banned from taking money for campaigning above a certain (low) value from any single organisation or business, and banned from taking jobs at any organisation that might represent a conflict of interest for a significant period of time after they leave office to prevent favours for jobs. Anyone who does this should be investigated for corruption. They should also be banned from appointing people to the House of Lords if they have been legitimately voted out in an election. It's ridiculous that the electorate can vote someone out and the party can turn around and say "fuck you, you're having them anyway." (In reality an unelected HoL shouldn't exist anyway, but that's another story).

The MP salary is there to ensure that all members of society can become an MP without any financial penalty. It is already more than enough of an incentive for working class people and middle class people to consider it a very prestigious job. It's the same as a consultant doctor ffs, and much more when you take into account all of the bonuses involved. The only people who seem to have a problem with the salary are toffs who were expecting a six-figure salary to do fuck all at daddy's friend's company the second they left university.

There's this idea that paying people more removes corruption. No, harsh legal penalties get rid of corruption. It amazes me that Owen Paterson isn't able to be legally prosecuted for what he did, for example, and it's just a matter of breaking parliamentary rules.

 

[Mike D]

It is however an overwhelming majority this particular Government thing.

There has always been bad apples, this Government has a full orchard.

And that is the point of these stories have been bubbling under for months. I remember the Byline Times reporting on the Coz story months ago but now that the sleaze has gathered momentum the avalanche starts and I guarantee there's more to come.

Its funny how Metal never mentions the fact that Starmer did some legal work whilst being an MP for FREE and it was relating the death penalty.

 

[babyape]

Nothing to see here....

 

[blueparrot]

How many people care about it?

I know we are on here disgusted with it all, but it's the teflon tories and they are masters of deflection.

It will all be forgotten about in a few weeks when the real enemy of the UK, the EUSSR, take centre stage and they exact their revenge on us.

The tories need an enemy at the moment to boost their ratings because an election is looming before the real effects of their 'build back better' brexit is laid bare for all to see when import controls have to be implemented.

Geoffrey Cox, a QC and former Lord Chancellor, the loudest voice in the House of Commons during the brexit debates, had to take legal advice from the chief whip so he could swan off to his sunny island and earn his money. Really?

He covered his back, and that's the only reason he asked him.

They are all bent as a nine bob note, there are countless breaches of the ministerial code from all and sundry running our country at the moment, and it doesn't mean a jot to them because no one really gives a damm about it.

They lie and cheat because they know they can get away with it.

Tory boys- defend that?

They don't give a shit, and they won't even try.

No it starts off only people in these sort of threads care, then there is a tipping point there is a drip drip effect, and once it gets into a constant flow the general floating voter starts to care, this feels like one of those to me . Tha's what brings governments down.

 

[Saddleworth2]

How many people care about it?

I know we are on here disgusted with it all, but it's the teflon tories and they are masters of deflection.

It will all be forgotten about in a few weeks when the real enemy of the UK, the EUSSR, take centre stage and they exact their revenge on us.

The tories need an enemy at the moment to boost their ratings because an election is looming before the real effects of their 'build back better' brexit is laid bare for all to see when import controls have to be implemented.

Geoffrey Cox, a QC and former Lord Chancellor, the loudest voice in the House of Commons during the brexit debates, had to take legal advice from the chief whip so he could swan off to his sunny island and earn his money. Really?

He covered his back, and that's the only reason he asked him.

They are all bent as a nine bob note, there are countless breaches of the ministerial code from all and sundry running our country at the moment, and it doesn't mean a jot to them because no one really gives a damm about it.

They lie and cheat because they know they can get away with it.

Tory boys- defend that?

They don't give a shit, and they won't even try.

A great many do care and care enough not to vote for them. Many more are needed though before they are kicked out.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Nothing to see here....

you really could not make it up.

Sorry, Orwell did:

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”

 

[bluethrunthru]

anybody got any figures on who actually benefitted from 11 years of austerity? I have seen that wages flat lined and in real terms went down but every service seems to have been reduced in that period