The Conservative Party

[Vic]

Mercer has spent the last month outing himself as a proper **** hasn't he?

Are they all trying to show they're the Nasty Party?

"I went into politics to avoid identikit politicians, then I signed LIar Johnson's Brexit pledge to make sure I stayed in politics"

"He's only 25" (Same age as Churchill when he was first elected as an MP) "No real experience of the cost of living crisis that we created" (Churchill born in Blenheim Palace...)

 

[Vic]

The picture that should scare the Tories is that Lib Dems are prepared to vote Labour in large numbers, and vice versa. That's the clearest path to wipe out the Tories across the country.

I do wonder if the Green vote is a bit of a Corbyn hangover - A lot of the Corbyn supporting Twitter etc., spend more time criticising and mocking Keir Starmer than being critical of the Tory Government, and that can sustain a 'never-Starmer' block in a way that wouldn't have got traction before Social Media. Hopefully it won't cost too many seats in a General Election, but I suspect the Green's hopes of any kind of informal 'progressive alliance' with Labour and the Lib Dems have taken a hit.

Presuming Green voters in Uxbridge like the ULEZ, voting Green rather than Labour let in the Tory.

 

[Vic]

The Tories campaigned against their own policy

I know this is the Tory way. Demand councils do something, they do it, then local Tories oppose it locally (housing, roads, low traffic neighbourhoods etc). But this letter was about extending the ULEZ to the N Circular and S Circular which was done. Kahn's plan expands it much further. You need a similar smoking gun that this was at the government's initiative.

 

[hilts]

Presuming Green voters in Uxbridge like the ULEZ, voting Green rather than Labour let in the Tory.

Earn your votes don't expect to be gifted them.

 

[Vic]

Earn your votes don't expect to be gifted them.

You mean like LibDems gifted their votes to Labour in Selby, and Labour to the LibDems in Frome.

 

[hilts]

You mean like LibDems gifted their votes to Labour in Selby, and Labour to the LibDems in Frome.

That's up to the lib dem voters it's their business not yours. You do know that Labour doesn't have to win every seat nor is it a good thing for them to appear more popular than they are. The Tories will be beaten and Labour will win the next election but its not good if the victory is too large.

 

[bluenova]

Earn your votes don't expect to be gifted them.

If earning my vote meant a party had to agree with my views, then I'd never be able to vote :)

 

[hilts]

If earning my vote meant a party had to agree with my views, then I'd never be able to vote :)

Are they that weird:-)

 

[bluenova]

Are they that weird:-)

Free puppies on the NHS now!

 

[TinFoilHat]

Things I have learnt today

Uxbridge has at least 13965 cunts living in the area.

High density of white van Man, Sun reading, Talkshite listeners.

 

[hilts]

High density of white van Man, Sun reading, Talkshite listeners.

And rich folk that can't get their heads around the fact that this particular Tory party ain't good for them either such is the mess they are leaving in their wake.

I find it bewildering tbh.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Free puppies on the NHS now!

Hope that means these puppies are freed.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I think folk are used to being able to pop out to the shops to see friends or whatever without paying £12.50 like folk elsewhere do. There are ulez related scrappage schemes if you are on benefits etc, but for context a 30-40k salary round there is probably not going far. Tradesmen too - finding the dosh for a euro 6 van will be a stretch I think

I've been in the borough numerous times.

It doesn't take long to walk most places and they have a world class transport system what with being next to Heathrow and having a rail station in West Drayton and the tube station in Uxbridge.

Could just get an Uber.

Most people within a London borough don't need a car for day-to-day use.

 

[bluethrunthru]

I've been in the borough numerous times.

It doesn't take long to walk most places and they have a world class transport system what with being next to Heathrow and having a rail station in West Drayton and the tube station in Uxbridge.

Could just get an Uber.

Most people within a London borough don't need a car for day-to-day use.

when I used to go fairly regularly I'd drive to High Barnet station (just inside the M25) and get the Northern Line to Bank Station. Easy peasy and handy because Barnet was the terminus so if I nodded off on the train back I never missed my stop lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

Presuming Green voters in Uxbridge like the ULEZ, voting Green rather than Labour let in the Tory.

I'd expect the vast majority of them don't even drive a car that will see them paying ULEZ as there are many exemptions.

If your vehicle is one of the following, it will be exempt from the ULEZ charge:

• A diesel car that meets Euro 6 standards.
• A petrol car that meets Euro 4 standards.
• A fully-electric car.
• Hybrid cars and mild hybrids must meet Euro 4 or 6 depending on their fuel type.

Diesel euro 6 standards came in Sept 2015 and petrol euro 4 January 2005. Still they probably all read the Mail and think Richard Tice is a genius so they know where to get the truth from.

 

[bluenova]

I'd expect the vast majority of them don't even drive a car that will see them paying ULEZ as there are many exemptions.

If your vehicle is one of the following, it will be exempt from the ULEZ charge:

• A diesel car that meets Euro 6 standards.
• A petrol car that meets Euro 4 standards.
• A fully-electric car.
• Hybrid cars and mild hybrids must meet Euro 4 or 6 depending on their fuel type.

Diesel euro 6 standards came in Sept 2015 and petrol euro 4 January 2005. Still they probably all read the Mail and think Richard Tice is a genius so they know where to get the truth from.

There was some talk from the Mayor's side that it's better to move quickly, as this will go away as an election issue when it comes in and most people realise they're not affected.

 

[kaz7]

The tory who lost bullying the 25 yr old labour ( i think) who beat him , toxic is right , tories are cunts

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I've been in the borough numerous times.

It doesn't take long to walk most places and they have a world class transport system what with being next to Heathrow and having a rail station in West Drayton and the tube station in Uxbridge.

Could just get an Uber.

Most people within a London borough don't need a car for day-to-day use.

I'm sure the people who live there will be touched by your willingness to give up their cars

 

[west didsblue]

Seems that in spite of ULEZ initially being started by Johnson as mayor, and mandated by a law brought in by the current Tory government, the Conservative Party - in this by-election - have successfully managed to pin it personally on Sadiq Khan and Labour in general. Just goes to show that truth doesn’t matter, it’s all about getting out a consistent message and it doesn’t matter if it’s true.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

I'm sure the people who live there will be touched by your willingness to give up their cars

There's plenty of new services not included within the usual public transport. Zip Car hire service, scooters. Fat lazy bastards could just get a mobility scooter.