The Conservative Party

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Doesn't matter.... jobs done and Tory supporting hedge funds have made their killing. The rest of us will be punished by higher mortgage and interest rates.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I'm still not sure how real growth occurs bearing in mind: we have almost full employment but there are many vacancies. Unless there is a serious review of freedom of movement this situation can not be resolved. As the boss of a large builder stated, "you can lift planning restrictions as much as you like but if I haven't got the staff to build the houses nothing will happen". But hey all those people who voted for "B" knew full well this was going to happen!!!

Same way they're going to magic up all the workers to build 8* nuclear power stations

* give or take 8.

 

[BrianW]

For as long as I remember, Tories have talked about 'growing the pie' in preference to redistribution.

It looks attractive at first sight, doesn't it? The snags: 1. It's not that simple, or everyone would be doing it. And it's even more complex in a developed economy. 2. Big Brother Joe, who always insists on the biggest slice of the pie, will demand an even bigger slice of the bigger pie as an 'incentive'. Because Big Brother Joe does not give a shit about his siblings living on crumbs.

This is typical simplistic Tory bollocks, drawing analogies that they think 'ordinary people' i.e. mugs can understand. See also 'maxing out the nation's credit card' and 'only spending what we earn.'

Oh, and as an aside, if I was planning to grow the economy my first step would not be Brexit which it is acknowledged has knocked 4% off GDP for no tangible advantage whatever.

OTOH, if I was a politician in the here-and-now, and wanted quick growth, my first step would be to apply to join the Single Market and align with the EU as much as possible to boost trade. But then I am not a blinkered idealogue who thinks it's still 1955 and that we can somehow persuade the world to share our delusions about 'free markets' and all the rest of the right-wing imaginary bullshit.

 

[bonespost]

Still not listening

Kwarteng confirms further cuts of up to £18bn for public services

Budgets will not be topped up to take account of soaring inflation, chancellor says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[mancityvstoke]

But what about all the old dodgers not working and the sick and disabled?

Lazy cunts

 

[BlueHammer85]

Scrapping the 45p top rate.

Fucking embarrassing and a confirmation, if needed, she doesn't have a clue or conviction.

They thought they could get away with this

they thought giving tax breaks to the wealthiest and letting hedge fund managers profit the most is something they could do on the sly.

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

Still not listening

Kwarteng confirms further cuts of up to £18bn for public services

Budgets will not be topped up to take account of soaring inflation, chancellor says

www.independent.co.uk

This shithead said that the tax matter for the richest was dropped as it had ‘become a distraction’
A distraction?
It’s gone beyond insulting to anyone with a semblance of intelligence facing impossible financial challenges and who is worried about the countries future.

 

[mat]

9 days is enough to cream the profits of shortening the pound...?

 

[inbetween]

Doesn't matter.... jobs done and Tory supporting hedge funds have made their killing. The rest of us will be punished by higher mortgage and interest rates.

I had this argument with someone over the weekend. The usual was quoted that we had 15% rates 20 years ago and we were fine but that was 15% based upon what you borrowed 20 years ago which was far less. The maths are pretty simple, 15% rates on a mortgage of £200k is a lot more than 15% rates on a mortgage of £20k... The proportion of income to housing costs has only got worse over the years.

That's what people do not understand where even a 0.5% rate increase at current house prices could put people into hardship. We bought our house 4 years ago, the rate was 0.5% then and we pay £830pm. I dread to think what it'll be when our fix ends in 3 years. No-one is immune because this will impact landlords who need to cover their costs and so rents will go up even more than mortgages.

The BoE are idiotic and completely moronic to raise rates to combat inflation when inflation is being caused by problems outside the UK. We already have the government paying chunks of our energy bills to keep the energy market alive so what's next, the government pays people's mortgages to keep the housing market going???

The thing is a change of government won't help because Labour won't do a single thing about this either, they can put more spending in but that will compound inflation further and their taxation plans aren't exactly investment friendly compared to the Tories so nothing will change. Regardless of government the £ will still be on its arse and inflation will be sky high so at the moment we have no real choice.

What is really needed is a common sense approach or policies that resolve the causes of inflation which is the post-COVID/Brexit supply troubles and the war in Ukraine. We can get our knickers in a twist about tax breaks for millionaires but either way that's irrelevant to the problem of the day. I haven't seen jack all from either party on how they will resolve all of this because the fact is they don't have a clue.

 

[twosips]

More austerity incoming. On top of the austerity that has fucked this country. I can't stand them. Parasites on this country, leeching off of hardworking, decent people. Quite frankly, I have zero respect for anyone who could still vote for them after everything we've seen over the past decade.