The Conservative Party

[Gabriel]

I so hope you’re wrong, mate.

As do I, but history suggests that would happen.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

As do I, but history suggests that would happen.

The last few years have thrown a lot of historical precedents out of the window.

 

[meltonblue]

A general election isn’t the answer to the problem. The electoral system itself is the problem.

Whilst I agree with this, I can’t see it changing any time soon. Labour won’t support electoral reform regardless of what the membership vote for as moving to pr will be the death of them as a party, can’t see a Labour leader willingly letting that happen, at least not one like Starmer.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

72 to abstain, 36 to vote with the opposition.

Braverman or Patel only if the members got a say which won't happen.They can't find a unity candidate as they are not united, and it's hard to say how much disunity would be involved in choosing between Hunt, Wallace and Mordaunt. I suspect Sunak is the only obvious choice as he was MPs' choice before.

Think they better had appoint Sunak as he appears to be capable of torpedoing anyone else who becomes prime minister.

Appointing Sunak would alienate 65% of the Tory supporters.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Whilst I agree with this, I can’t see it changing any time soon. Labour won’t support electoral reform regardless of what the membership vote for as moving to pr will be the death of them as a party, can’t see a Labour leader willingly letting that happen, at least not one like Starmer.

Then the whole fuckung merry go round will continue, as will our decline as a nation.

 

[Gabriel]

Appointing Sunak would alienate 65% of the Tory supporters.

Do you mean the membership? Keeping Truss may appease them for now, but if they can’t see an existential crisis looming for their party if she remains, then they might need a little less G and a lot more T. The platform on which she stood on and won has been obliterated in weeks, so she’s now no more than a figurehead, and that’s King Charles’ job.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Fuck politics......pigs in a trough at our expense

 

[meltonblue]

Then the whole fuckung merry go round will continue, as will our decline as a nation.

The merry go round will. Whether the decline will depends on your opinion of Starmer and what you think he’ll do.

He’ll at least bring us back more centrally. I can’t see the decline being really reversed until we start reversing the damage of brexit though and im not sure even electoral reform will bring that for a while yet.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The merry go round will. Whether the decline will depends on your opinion of Starmer and what you think he’ll do.

He’ll at least bring us back more centrally. I can’t see the decline being really reversed until we start reversing the damage of brexit though and im not sure even electoral reform will bring that for a while yet.

Repairing the damage of Brexit and electoral reform aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

[meltonblue]

Repairing the damage of Brexit and electoral reform aren’t mutually exclusive.

They’re not but it would significantly increase the likelihood. Currently the two main parties position on it are different to big parts of their membership, labour increasingly so.