The Conservative Party

[metalblue]

That fuck awful Coffey just spouted the same nonsense in the commons.
Waffling some crap about turnips instead of tomatoes or something

I’d add it as a link if I could be arsed to search for it again.

It’s 2023, we should not be saying we should be grateful for things that were easily accessible 20 odd years ago.

The gaslighting never ends from them

TBF it’s a serious conversation. We can’t say on one hand we want to save the environment and on the other hand say we want cheap tomatoes to travel a 1000 miles to our plate or be forced grown consuming energy. This isn’t about being grateful but being honest at what cost.

 

[Lowtower]

TBF it’s a serious conversation. We can’t say on one hand we want to save the environment and on the other hand say we want cheap tomatoes to travel a 1000 miles to our plate or be forced grown consuming energy. This isn’t about being grateful but being honest at what cost.

Agree buddy.

But it’s Coffey saying this stuff, and she doesn’t give a fuck about the environment.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Agree buddy.

But it’s Coffey saying this stuff, and she doesn’t give a fuck about the environment.

More Coffey lies or just being lazy and not across her brief - probably both

 

[west didsblue]

TBF it’s a serious conversation. We can’t say on one hand we want to save the environment and on the other hand say we want cheap tomatoes to travel a 1000 miles to our plate or be forced grown consuming energy. This isn’t about being grateful but being honest at what cost.

Now that you’re bringing saving the environment into the discussion, how does that square with leaving a trading bloc on our doorstep and trying to join one in the Pacific to make up for the downturn in exports.

 

[metalblue]

You might be right that the extra cost due to Brexit is the most insignificant issue, however the unpredictable customs delays due to the extra Brexit red tape certainly are a significant factor for produce that deteriorates if it is not delivered when expected.

That’s absolutely true and another cost/delay that makes shipping it to the UK less appealing. Where there is under supply unless we in the UK are prepared to pay a huge premium it makes perfect sense for producers to sell into the easiest of markets. And the UK is certainly at the bottom of that list for EU producers due to Brexit red tape

 

[metalblue]

Now that you’re bringing saving the environment into the discussion, how does that square with leaving a trading bloc on our doorstep and trying to join one in the Pacific to make up for the downturn in exports.

I don’t want to sidestep your point as it’s a very fair question but as soon as we start down the road of “what about” we get nothing discussed.

 

[west didsblue]

I don’t want to sidestep your point as it’s a very fair question but as soon as we start down the road of “what about” we get nothing discussed.

Maybe you mentioning the environment in the first place falls into that category.

 

[metalblue]

can you really not work it out? Are you mince? A couple of years ago Ireland opened a ferry between them and the EU thus cutting out the UK as their landbridge - hence Hollyhead ferry port is now struggling coz no trucks are going through there - as a member state they have zero issues in importing from other member states.

Some people need more than photo id before they are allowed to vote.

This is THE determining factor - produce from southern Spain does not have to cross any sea to be sold in any one of the other 26 states they are still in a trading bloc with.

And you reckon I’m mince?

 

[metalblue]

Maybe you mentioning the environment in the first place falls into that category.

I merely mentioned that she made a fair point in raising out of season food.

 

[Gabriel]