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It’s not moot because the question of who controls them whether they’re real or imaginary (they’re real by the way) could influence how Russia or any enemy acts. If the US had an input into the tactical control of the weapons and they elect another Trump (or equivalent) our deterrent becomes useless. That’s why we have an independent deterrent.
 
The difference between boardroom elites and cultural elites like actors,writers, directors ,radio presenters, etc is that one just manages the movement of capital while the other actually produces content(ie. labor). Unfortunately our society seems to monetarily value the former than the latter.
I'm always suprised by people who denigrate actors, footballers or media personality wages. The reality is JOB is paid that because he attracts that money/viewship. If he left LBC he would earn that elsewhere. Robert Downey Jnr earns a fortune as an actor because he is a central part of a lucrative movie franchise. Erling earns that money because he constantly scores goals, another club in Europe or the ME would happily pay his wages and more.

CEOs or managing directors that run companies badly or lose large of sums of money are ten a penny. They also operate under a far less harsh spotlight where failing upwards is common.
 
It’s not moot because the question of who controls them whether they’re real or imaginary (they’re real by the way) could influence how Russia or any enemy acts. If the US had an input into the tactical control of the weapons and they elect another Trump (or equivalent) our deterrent becomes useless. That’s why we have an independent deterrent.
They’re never being used, therefore the debate is moot.

They might be fake and some Tory donor has pocketed the £100bn for all we know. Stranger things have happened under this government.
 
But what if we elected someone like Corbyn who would never use them?

Unless there was a military coup (real possibility, I suppose), they would be out of action.

As Alan says, it's a moot point. Just nuclear dick waving.
 
They’re never being used, therefore the debate is moot.

They might be fake and some Tory donor has pocketed the £100bn for all we know. Stranger things have happened under this government.
Their primary role is that of being a deterrent and, have proven effective in that role. Of course they would've used in retaliation to a nuclear attack on our shores.
 
Their primary role is that of being a deterrent and, have proven effective in that role. Of course they would've used in retaliation to a nuclear attack on our shores.
So the deterrent is the threat of them, not actually using them.

If we only use them in the scenario you paint, we’re fucked anyway.

Might as well be duds and spend the money on schools, hospitals and immigration processing centres.
 
Their primary role is that of being a deterrent and, have proven effective in that role. Of course they would've used in retaliation to a nuclear attack on our shores.

Hmmm - multiple strategic strikes on the UK - submarine bases/nuclear power stations/ major cities smoked - remind me again of the value of our own nuke retaliation when we are all dead or dying?
 

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