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SkyBlueFlux
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Either we can afford an increase across our welfare system that is commensurate with inflation or we can’t. The fact pensions are increasing more than other allowances is just the Tories picking favourites with the triple-lock acting as a convenient excuse.
This disability policy, given the backdrop of the state of the NHS, is a total disaster waiting to happen - I wonder how long it will take for somebody to off themselves because some job centre admin clerk has decided they should be working? They have the nerve to call themselves compassionate - it really fucks me off. They’ve never done a thing to help the young, the disabled, the vulnerable - not a single thing. Just punishment after punishment disguised as fiscal responsibility and the odd scrap off the table to grab a convenient headline that, at best, might buy you a couple of extra tins of beans a year.
They can take their 2% - which will do nothing to offset increases in mortgages and energy bills - and they can well and truly get fucked.
This disability policy, given the backdrop of the state of the NHS, is a total disaster waiting to happen - I wonder how long it will take for somebody to off themselves because some job centre admin clerk has decided they should be working? They have the nerve to call themselves compassionate - it really fucks me off. They’ve never done a thing to help the young, the disabled, the vulnerable - not a single thing. Just punishment after punishment disguised as fiscal responsibility and the odd scrap off the table to grab a convenient headline that, at best, might buy you a couple of extra tins of beans a year.
They can take their 2% - which will do nothing to offset increases in mortgages and energy bills - and they can well and truly get fucked.
MillionMilesAway
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Either we can afford an increase across our welfare system that is commensurate with inflation or we can’t. The fact pensions are increasing more than other allowances is just the Tories picking favourites with the triple-lock acting as a convenient excuse.
This disability policy, given the backdrop of the state of the NHS, is a total disaster waiting to happen - I wonder how long it will take for somebody to off themselves because some job centre admin clerk has decided they should be working? They have the nerve to call themselves compassionate - it really fucks me off. They’ve never done a thing to help the young, the disabled, the vulnerable - not a single thing. Just punishment after punishment disguised as fiscal responsibility and the odd scrap off the table to grab a convenient headline that, at best, might buy you a couple of extra tins of beans a year.
They can take their 2% - which will do nothing to offset increases in mortgages and energy bills - and they can well and truly get fucked.
The triple lock is a problem for anyone.
Put it in the manifesto and get hammered.
The only option that I can see is that it would have to be done in the first year of a parliament in the hope it is less remembered years later.
If of course it is thought necessary to get rid of it - I don't know enough to know if it is.
Brewster's millions
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The state pension is £125bn of expenditure for the current year, so the extra percentage point or two percentage points increase implied by the triple lock is significant.The triple lock is a problem for anyone.
Put it in the manifesto and get hammered.
The only option that I can see is that it would have to be done in the first year of a parliament in the hope it is less remembered years later.
If of course it is thought necessary to get rid of it - I don't know enough to know if it is.
The issue is of course that this additional growth rate from the triple lock becomes significant on a compound basis over a five year forecast horizon.
blueparrot
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It is possible how things may work in Labour Britain as we aren't in Labour Britain we wouldn't know. We do know it's how things work in this corupt governments Britain.
metalblue
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It is possible how things may work in Labour Britain as we aren't in Labour Britain we wouldn't know. We do know it's how things work in this corupt governments Britain.
We don’t know if any of it influences government. It’s mere conjecture and it just suits one side to scream “corruption” whilst simultaneously happily saying vote for a party with exactly the same sort of links.
Yet brave is the person who dares to say “they’re all the same”.
bluethrunthru
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They can take their 2% - which will do nothing to offset increases in mortgages and energy bills - and they can well and truly get fucked.
Just think about that - if you are on @£15k pa you save a whopping £45 pa - less than a quid a week - if you get a rise or a new job @£18k pa because he hasn't lifted the amount at which you start paying type 2 NI fiscal drag means you will pay £111 pa contribs - over £2 per week. And he wants us all to pat him on the back for that? They are so far out of touch its untrue.
If you ask me this fires the starting gun on the GE race - bit of smoke and mirrors to come in next April and rush to an election in March hoping to convince the great unwashed they are about to be made rich beyond their wildest dreams ( then post election say oh no we have hit some headwinds again so most of that ain't gonna happen )
SkyBlueFlux
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Just think about that - if you are on @£15k pa you save a whopping £45 pa - less than a quid a week - if you get a rise or a new job @£18k pa because he hasn't lifted the amount at which you start paying type 2 NI fiscal drag means you will pay £111 pa contribs - over £2 per week. And he wants us all to pat him on the back for that? They are so far out of touch its untrue.
If you ask me this fires the starting gun on the GE race - bit of smoke and mirrors to come in next April and rush to an election in March hoping to convince the great unwashed they are about to be made rich beyond their wildest dreams ( then post election say oh no we have hit some headwinds again so most of that ain't gonna happen )
I agree, the way they smugly talk about “putting £200 a year back in the pockets of ordinary working people” is just an embarrassing indictment of how out of touch they are.
Do they know what £200 actually gets you these days? When I lived in central London that would have been about 15% of one month’s rent, and that was 3 years ago.
bluethrunthru
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I agree, the way they smugly talk about “putting £200 a year back in the pockets of ordinary working people” is just an embarrassing indictment of how out of touch they are.
Do they know what £200 actually gets you these days? When I lived in central London that would have been about 15% of one month’s rent, and that was 3 years ago.
an agreeable bottle of claret is what most of them would spend £200 on