The Conservative Party

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I’m going to take a wild guess that all this rebellion posturing is going to melt away into thin air.

So fucking predictable.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

We continue to insanely turn our backs on our neighbours. It’s rude as it’s harming us as a nation.

 

[law74]

When the coalition government came to power in 2010, public sector borrowing was running at 10% of GDP per annum, and on a day to day basis, the government was spending 5 pounds for every 4 that it received in taxation.

The only way that the government could have avoided a run up in debt - in direct terms at least - is by immediately reducing day to day expenditure by 20% in nominal terms, effectively 25% in real terms.

Do you think that would have been a wise move, or do you think that it was better to reduce the deficit over a number of years, which meant that debt was always going to rise? That’s basically your two options.

You seem to have deliberately left out the sensible option.
If we are not bringing in enough money, increase the amount of money we bring in.
Those "magic money trees" in British Protectorates like the Seychelles, Cayman Islands, Channel Islands, why not give them a shake through closing tax loopholes, closing Non-Dom status,?
Companies under investigation for tax evasion? Barred from tendering for public sector contracts until the conclusion of the investigation...oh, we need to recruit more Investigators after 14 years of neglect...sadly investigations will be taking longer as those we have left will be training the new intake.

We are undoubtedly becoming less generous and forgiving as a society.

The Milk Snatcher famously said there is no such thing as society.
Thankfully she is no more.
Sadly her idealogy lives on.

Like furlough you mean? Nope that never happened.

Or the support for businesses? Nope never happened.

Or the extra money spent on the NHS? Nope never happened.

Or the cost of living payments? Nope never happened.

Like you say none of that extra money spent has gone to help out the people of this land. I’ll wait for the usual it went in their mates pockets claptrap.

You mean the cost of living payment that went into the dividends the shareholders of the energy companies, instead of introducing a windfall tax on them (or better still, bringing them back under public ownership).

 

[bluethrunthru]

We continue to insanely turn our backs on our neighbours. It’s rude as it’s harming us as a nation.

we are at the point already where they don't give a shit about us. The Rwanda thing only came about because they saw France took £££££££'s off us for no real action so they decided to dip their bread too - it was warned all along ( and denounced as Project Fear ) you leave the EU you leave Dublin 3 and if you look at the upturn in boat crossings and the date it started it was always bound to happen - you leave the EU you are no longer a member (obvs) so why would they give a shit about what has become YOUR migration problem?

ps - its helped they have been up against a bunch of clueless racists who are crap at politics

 

[metalblue]

You mean the cost of living payment that went into the dividends the shareholders of the energy companies, instead of introducing a windfall tax on them (or better still, bringing them back under public ownership).

It doesn’t matter if you agree with the intervention or not. The government paid for it and it increased our debt.

 

[law74]

Merely pointing out that the affordability of housing in the UK is a long-running problem, and not simply a current day issue.

It broke out of its long-term range under Labour, and has moved slightly higher since. Is that all the fault of the current government?

It doesn’t matter if you agree with the intervention or not. The government paid for it and it increased our debt.

Of course it matters.
It is yet another example of this shower using our money to make their owner's - donor's better off.
Instead of a windfall tax to cap the cost of energy, they took our taxes and paid it indirectly into shareholders dividends.

 

[bluethrunthru]

not entirely sure that the "Labour will take us back to square one" is the winning line Sunak's teenage adviser's think it is

 

[bluethrunthru]

This Tory implosion is so fast I am running out of popcorn

 

[TinFoilHat]

Fascist woman.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Of course it matters.
It is yet another example of this shower using our money to make their owner's - donor's better off.
Instead of a windfall tax to cap the cost of energy, they took our taxes and paid it indirectly into shareholders dividends.

Are you aware of the Energy profits levy?

Introduced in 2022, increased again last year? Expected to raise over 20bn over its duration?