The Conservative Party

[bluethrunthru]

 

[metalblue]

Of course it matters.
It is yet another example of this shower using our money to make their owner's - donor's better off.
Instead of a windfall tax to cap the cost of energy, they took our taxes and paid it indirectly into shareholders dividends.

It doesn’t matter and you’re talking nonsense.

Why is it nonsense? Had the government not paid part of our bills (and personally I’d rather they hadn’t) you’d have either paid them yourselves (same result for the firms) or used less energy (my preferred outcome because I don’t believe the concept of caring for my neighbours should end at our borders). Had they issued a windfall tax (and I take exception with this in principle because no body was calling for a whip round when these firms lost billions upon billions during covid) it’s just moving the deck chairs, why should they have spent that tax take on this, why not on the NHS or some other worthy cause.

Why doesn’t it matter? You’re conflating your personal view on if it’s the right thing to spend money on against the original question which was how this increase in government debt benefited the tax payer. This was an example. They could have spent the money sending us all a nice birthday card instead - we’d have still benefited from the spend even if we all thought it was the wrong thing to spend it on.

 

[Eebo]

It doesn’t matter and you’re talking nonsense.

Why is it nonsense? Had the government not paid part of our bills (and personally I’d rather they hadn’t) you’d have either paid them yourselves (same result for the firms) or used less energy (my preferred outcome because I don’t believe the concept of caring for my neighbours should end at our borders).

Why doesn’t it matter? You’re conflating your personal view on if it’s the right thing to spend money on against the original question which was how this increase in government debt benefited the tax payer. This was an example. They could have spent the money sending us all a nice birthday card instead - we’d have still benefited from the spend even if we all thought it was the wrong thing to spend it on.

Or the energy companies would have not got paid by some people who couldn't afford to pay and would have suffered more bad debts (a hit to profits) like every other business has to...

 

[bluethrunthru]

as we all know - they are betting the farm on a constituency that is dying off

 

[metalblue]

Or the energy companies would have not got paid by some people who couldn't afford to pay and would have suffered more bad debts (a hit to profits) like every other business has to...

And we who pay all pay a levy to offset their risk. Brilliant eh?

 

[Eebo]

And we who pay all pay a levy to offset their risk. Brilliant eh?

And?

We have already paid it, so now they are getting paid twice. Quality mate sorting from this shower of shit.

 

[bluethrunthru]

seems that Coffey doesn't know the capital of the country she references - and she WAS a minister of the crown ffs

 

[Bodicoteblue]

This whole Rwanda bollocks us just one big fucking smokescreen for their shit show in government.

Exactly this.
Last night’s vote wasn’t about any policy, it was about hanging on to power.
If they really want to see the ‘will of the British people’ enacted, then according to the latest polls, they should quit now.

 

[metalblue]

And?

And so the burden falls on the people who pay their bills to pay the bills of those who don’t. You think that’s ok?

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Anderson - didn't hold true to his beliefs because ................ the boys on the other team laughed at him

Mogg told everybody that he won’t vote for it as it wouldn’t work … then voted for it.

Reptiles!