The Conservative Party

SkyBlueFlux said:
This is interesting, not seen this kind of analysis until now.

According to this poll, the average Labour polling lead is 24 pts (slightly less than YouGov have quoted but roughly the same as other pollsters). Importantly though, if you look at the seats Labour would target, the 150 closest contested seats, the poll lead is even wider.

It seems that this 20-25% of the vote the Tories are clinging onto is disproportionately concentrated in their safest seats. It already looked bleak for them but this just makes it way worse.

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The funny thing is that their obsessive 'Stop the Boats'/Rwanda bollox is turning off moderate Tories and swing voters who are concerned about other issues.

At the same time they losing the the very people they are targeting with this nonsense to Reform because even the racists and xenophobes can see that the Rwanda policy is not going to work.
 
Eebo said:
The funny thing is that their obsessive 'Stop the Boats'/Rwanda bollox is turning off moderate Tories and swing voters who are concerned about other issues.

At the same time they losing the the very people they are targeting with this nonsense to Reform because even the racists and xenophobes can see that the Rwanda policy is not going to work.
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Very true. This is the problem with courting the far right. You will never satisfy them with policies and processes that might take years to have an impact (not that the Rwanda policy would work anyway). The far right want the government to send stormtroopers out today to round up anybody who looks vaguely brown and chuck them into the Channel then shut the border down and don’t let anybody in for any reason. Anything short of that and they won’t be happy and will continue to cause ruptures. And you can’t reason with them otherwise because they are not rational or amenable to compromise.

It’s a Faustian bargain that only ends in one of two scenarios - the complete collapse of the Conservative Party or, if sufficient numbers exist, a fascist takeover (more akin to the US’s current situation).
 
The far-right works on the basis of stirring emotion and promising swift action to remedy the perceived problem(s).

It is a mark of how far this country has fallen that the Tories, a serious party, have started to adopt such tactics. (One reason why calling them 'socialists' is laughable.)

The problem we all face is that people are impatient but there are no simple or easy solutions to complex problems. Beyond that, the world is a far more complex place than it was in 1950, and so the complex problems are growing.

Another factor is the BS conspiracy theories on the internet, which are radicalising all manner of nutters.
 
Eebo said:
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I knew Boris was in for a landslide last time round when a scruffy guy interviewed while he was going round the food bank said he would be voting for Boris. It's people like him that are the problem, not rich privately educated posh knobs voting for other privately educated posh knobs.
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Was that the bloke who said he was voting Tory because "We didn't have all these food banks under Labour"?
 
BrianW said:
The far-right works on the basis of stirring emotion and promising swift action to remedy the perceived problem(s).

It is a mark of how far this country has fallen that the Tories, a serious party, have started to adopt such tactics. (One reason why calling them 'socialists' is laughable.)

The problem we all face is that people are impatient but there are no simple or easy solutions to complex problems. Beyond that, the world is a far more complex place than it was in 1950, and so the complex problems are growing.

Another factor is the BS conspiracy theories on the internet, which are radicalising all manner of nutters.
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Yep. They’ve never twigged that by making some of the far rights main talking points their own, all they’ve done is either shifted people even more to the right and to Reform or abandoning them as it’s not as big an issue to most people as they think it is.

I’m surprised they’re polling as high as they are to be honest. They’ve completely broken the social contract.
 
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