The Conservative Party

[mancityvstoke]

Just heard on the radio - there are 360k recipients of PIP following a diagnosis of anxiety or depression. Stride's answer is get them therapy. There is currently a backlog just shy of 2m people waiting for therapy.

They are alienating everybody - they are going to lose massively when a GE is called

There is no therapy availability unless you pay....it's all bollocks and total lies for the cameras.

Years on waiting lists then some inexperienced kid offering CBT.

Or get sectioned and released too soon.

 

[BrianW]

I am strongly in favour of people with mental illnesses getting therapy. I know from personal experience that a proper consultant psychiatrist and his/her team can work wonders. The problem is that there is a shortage of such people and (unless you are a danger to yourself or others) you are likely to have to wait a long time to meet them.

The other thing is that even mentally ill people have to eat and pay rent/mortgages. Anything that diminishes their financial security is likely to make them worse, not better. Maybe the idea is to save money by encouraging suicide.

 

[bluethrunthru]

That’s not true. There are loads of people out there that want all benefits stopped, mate. ;-)

whilst getting benefits themselves?

 

[bluethrunthru]

I am strongly in favour of people with mental illnesses getting therapy. I know from personal experience that a proper consultant psychiatrist and his/her team can work wonders. The problem is that there is a shortage of such people and (unless you are a danger to yourself or others) you are likely to have to wait a long time to meet them.

The other thing is that even mentally ill people have to eat and pay rent/mortgages. Anything that diminishes their financial security is likely to make them worse, not better. Maybe the idea is to save money by encouraging suicide.

I would normally react with revulsion at such a suggestion however seeing what is going on I have to say this is entirely plausible as an aim for these ghouls

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

whilst getting benefits themselves?

Yeah, but they’ve earned them.

 

[mexico1970]

The Tories haven't got time to get this through, maybe Labour would just announce that any new adjustments to PIP made by the Tories will be reversed when they get booted out of power.

But I suspect Labour will keep some of the Tory shit and blame the Tories for the next 4 years.

 

[kaz7]

Branding people with mental health problems scroungers and work shy is typical nasty tory speak , also life is more expensive with severe disability which is why you need monthly money . Carers need paying , they are not going to work for a person in their homes for nothing . Attacking people on pips is a cunts trick

 

[mancityvstoke]

Branding people with mental health problems scroungers and work shy is typical nasty tory speak , also life is more expensive with severe disability which is why you need monthly money . Carers need paying , they are not going to work for a person in their homes for nothing . Attacking people on pips is a cunts trick

Every Tory Govt I've seen since Thatcher has proved this theory to be fact.

Labour marginally better. None of them shine with brilliance on the side of the poor or less abled.

 

[argyle]

Who advised them that an election winning strategy was to screw disabled people??

I know with family that to get disability benefits both esa and pip is incredibly difficult. To stay on them is even harder.

The idea that people are living a life of leisure on them is the worst tabloid bullshit.

I don't think they have enough time to get this policy through parliament. If Labour agree to this then they won't be getting my vote either.

 

[argyle]

Who on Earth is this policy aimed at wooing?

Who seriously thinks "you know who have had it too good for too long? The disabled and the sick!!"