The Conservative Party

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Eh? If I decide to top myself it costs 1.5 mil? That cant be right. Samaritans will say anything

Ah if it doesn’t sound right to Joe the decorator on a footy forum then it mustn’t be true.

The Samaritans eh, what the fuck do they know about suicide.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Man on the internet debunks the claims of a specialist charity because what they're saying simply doesn't sound right to him. Try being more curious before you just shut someone down.

I haven't seen that statistics myself but it's not hard to see how the economic costs associated with a suicide could spiral. The involvement of the emergency services, a coroner, loved ones taking time off work to grieve etc. The lost economic output/potential of the person who has died.

You’ve highlighted the biggest problem we are faced with today, that of people not being curious. The education system is redefined almost annually, to ensure that particular quality is lacking, which is one of the greatest dis-services this, and many other governments do.
The last thing they want is a population that is not only curious but capable of critical thinking!!

 

[Mon Autre]

You’ve highlighted the biggest problem we are faced with today, that of people not being curious. The education system is redefined almost annually, to ensure that particular quality is lacking, which is one of the greatest dis-services this, and many other governments do.
The last thing they want is a population that is not only curious but capable of critical thinking!!

Completely agree. That lack of curiosity has also been fed by the "anti expert" sentiment that has been fuelled by the political right.

And then to compound things even further we're in an age where people seem extremely unwilling to to reflect/change their minds when they learn something new or have something explained to them. People doubling down has taken us to some terrible places. Learning there's no shame in being wrong about something and being willing to continue learning/being curious as an adult is a very good quality in a person.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Just a normal day in Tory Britain

Woman facing eviction told she would cope living on the streets

Thurrock Council said it believed Heidi Dodson would cope 'reasonably well' if she was made homeless.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Eebo]

And I suppose your A Guardian reader and a Labour Gammon..?

You alright my little Snowflake?

 

[Eebo]

State pension, a none means tested benefit, are you serious you clown..

More serious than you Coco

 

[mexico1970]

critical thinking!!

When someone thinks critically their conclusions are only taken as wholesome if that critical thinking aligns with another chin rubbers narrative, convincing people that critical thinking is important has got to be good and well because one persons opinion should carry more weight than someone else's.

For instance suicide isn't abstract it's committed in real time it could be quick or it could be slow. If it costs anywhere near the figures posted on here then that would be absurd and shows just how feeding certain service sectors cripple us as a country, all those boxes ticked off and the Ducks lined up in a row.

"Pointing out proof" of anything by just announcing that one person is right and the other person is wrong is such a terrible way to converse. BTW this isn't a dig at you just a general observation.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Just a normal day in Tory Britain

Woman facing eviction told she would cope living on the streets

Thurrock Council said it believed Heidi Dodson would cope 'reasonably well' if she was made homeless.

www.bbc.co.uk

Five years since they pledged to ban no-fault evictions and they've done fuck all about it. A party of landlords, for landlords.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

When someone thinks critically their conclusions are only taken as wholesome if that critical thinking aligns with another chin rubbers narrative, convincing people that critical thinking is important has got to be good and well because one persons opinion should carry more weight than someone else's.

For instance suicide isn't abstract it's committed in real time it could be quick or it could be slow. If it costs anywhere near the figures posted on here then that would be absurd and shows just how feeding certain service sectors cripple us as a country, all those boxes ticked off and the Ducks lined up in a row.

"Pointing out proof" of anything by just announcing that one person is right and the other person is wrong is such a terrible way to converse. BTW this isn't a dig at you just a general observation.

I suppose just thinking might be a start!

When mentioning critical thinking I am just suggesting we all try to stop thinking in binary, black and white terms.
Currently we focus on the acquisition and occasional retention of information, for its own sake (to pass exams, for instance), but that is always subject to the way that information is given and, indeed, what information is actually given out. History is written by the victors and all that…

Critical thinking can, of course, never be universal as we are all subject to episodes of emotion and irrational thoughts but at least having the ability to ‘see the other side‘, to seek out differing views and to find differing sources of ‘truth’ can only help, I’d imagine.

 

[mexico1970]

I suppose just thinking might be a start!

When mentioning critical thinking I am just suggesting we all try to stop thinking in binary, black and white terms.
Currently we focus on the acquisition and occasional retention of information, for its own sake (to pass exams, for instance), but that is always subject to the way that information is given and, indeed, what information is actually given out. History is written by the victors and all that…

Critical thinking can, of course, never be universal as we are all subject to episodes of emotion and irrational thoughts but at least having the ability to ‘see the other side‘, to seek out differing views and to find differing sources of ‘truth’ can only help, I’d imagine.

It's a given that someone's opinion is just an opinion unless of course it's an opinion like "The world is not made of cheese" in which case the person with the opinion is dealing with a conspiracy nut who isn't as you say thinking.

We are all products of our environment and life and friends and those factors are usually dictated by social class, in the unusual cases that this isn't the case and people go against the norm they are classed as rebels.

I am surrounded by genuine working class people, people who live day to day week to week with little to no savings and with no property or wealth, it's a bit rich when someone who owns their own house (Nothing against that) has a good job with a healthy pension judges how these people live because it doesn't match up to their idea of a decent person.

I find people who punch down to be absurdly arrogant.