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I'm a Psychiatrist, last year I attended 4 inquests of people who took there own lives,
3 of whom informed me that there mental health plummeted due to benefit cuts.
so fuck you, you arrogant prick
No need for the insult.

I don’t think I’ve said anything arrogant neither have I minimised people’s mental health and struggles with cuts.

We were analysing the data of benefits cuts under the Tories vs the Iraq War as which affected the most people.

I was right in saying the latter was a bigger stain on humanity.

Doesn’t mean I support the former but you’ve decided I have.
 
England is a single country that Johnson had total responsibility for, that’s comparable to those whole countries you’ve mentioned.

Couldn’t have done worse? He obviously could.

Number 1 he might not have taken the gamble on the vaccines, which has apparently saved 30,000 lives according to a new report.

He could have stayed open in November last year or January this year or done a Sweden and their experiment.

That would have been far worse.

He could have done far better and there needs to be a proper enquiry but to say he couldn’t have done worse and that he’s responsible for the majority of deaths is unrealistic.

The countries you’ve mentioned all have had pandemics more recently and therefore have all performed better than western nations.
We’re supposed to be thankful that he’s done better than Bolsanaro or Trump are we?
 
I would remind you of the day that Cameron stood on the steps of Manchester town Hall and made 10% of the Firemen redundant whilst at the same time launching £126 million of missiles at Libya (for what)
Cameron was a tosser.

What did Blair do in Libya?

It’s funny how people will defend the actions of someone in a certain colour tie but struggle to criticise those who have done the same or worse in another colour.
 
England is a single country that Johnson had total responsibility for, that’s comparable to those whole countries you’ve mentioned.

Couldn’t have done worse? He obviously could.

Number 1 he might not have taken the gamble on the vaccines, which has apparently saved 30,000 lives according to a new report.

He could have stayed open in November last year or January this year or done a Sweden and their experiment.

That would have been far worse.

He could have done far better and there needs to be a proper enquiry but to say he couldn’t have done worse and that he’s responsible for the majority of deaths is unrealistic.

The countries you’ve mentioned all have had pandemics more recently and therefore have all performed better than western nations.
Hello mate.
How you doing with your new alter ego?
You say BloJo can't be held responsible for the majority of covid deaths and yet his fatal two week delay in locking down in March 2020, the lack of a September circuit breaker and his attempt to 'defy the experts' and save Xmas ( plus of course letting the delta variant in early) are considered by many as a failure to prevent at least 50% of the deaths that have occured.
A public enquiry will have something to say on that but strangely no date has yet been announced.
 
Who do you think is the worse PM out of Blair and Johnson?
I think Blair made the biggest fuck up out of the two so will choose him but in terms of ability and his tools, Blair is fair and away more talented to warrant the job.

Johnson is clumsy, weak, cowardly, a liar, responsible for additional deaths in the pandemic maybe thousands but we don’t know directly and generally unfit to be PM

Blair is responsible for a million dead human beings in the Middle East.

It’s a difficult question in short but Iraq is the worst thing this country has done in my lifetime.
 
Hello mate.
How you doing with your new alter ego?
You say BloJo can't be held responsible for the majority of covid deaths and yet his fatal two week delay in locking down in March 2020, the lack of a September circuit breaker and his attempt to 'defy the experts' and save Xmas ( plus of course letting the delta variant in early) are considered by many as a failure to prevent at least 50% of the deaths that have occured.
A public enquiry will have something to say on that but strangely no date has yet been announced.
No idea who you are and what my alter ego is but hello.

Where’s the evidence to show your claim?

Who are these many?
 
No idea who you are and what my alter ego is but hello.
Where’s the evidence to show your claim?

Who are these many?
Get to fuck, Banjani. Just like before, you aren’t informed, intelligent or mature enough to lord it around the forum like you’re the clever one. I gave you a free pass loads of times last year because we’d been on the same side on the Brexit debate. But you’re basically a younger and slightly more articulate version of the Bloviator.
 
Get to fuck, Banjani. Just like before, you aren’t informed, intelligent or mature enough to lord it around the forum like you’re the clever one. I gave you a free pass loads of times last year because we’d been on the same side on the Brexit debate. But you’re basically a younger and slightly more articulate version of the Bloviator.
Haha what drugs are you on pal?
 
Haha what drugs are you on pal?
Why did you leave the forum? Did you get a ban(Jani)? Was it affecting your mental health? Or was it because everyone thought you were a ****? Remember when you passive-aggressively sneered when I said covid would be with us for years? Who’s laughing now, son?

Just in case anyone’s not aware who laughing boy here is ;-)
 
Why did you leave the forum? Did you get a ban(Jani)? Was it affecting your mental health? Or was it because everyone thought you were a ****? Remember when you passive-aggressively sneered when I said covid would be with us for years? Who’s laughing now, son?

Just in case anyone’s not aware who laughing boy here is ;-)
I don’t know what you think you’ve figured out but you’re wide of the mark and probably need a bit of help.
 
Where did I say we should be thankful?
You didn’t say that, and I didn’t say he couldn’t have done worse. I said he couldn’t have done much worse. Then you went on and gave two examples which are arguable at best.

He cornered the market in securing vaccines which got us 6 weeks ahead of the EU. It somewhat mitigated his fuck up of letting in delta early but you can’t really credit him for that. The EU have caught up now so all the ill will generated was a bit pointless other than for bragging rights.

The lockdown last winter was a month late. If he’d gone a month earlier most scientists reckoned it would have been a shorter lockdown and we wouldn’t have been hit as hard in January. So again, he could have done slightly worse by not locking down but he certainly could and should have done much better.
 
I think Blair made the biggest fuck up out of the two so will choose him but in terms of ability and his tools, Blair is fair and away more talented to warrant the job.

Johnson is clumsy, weak, cowardly, a liar, responsible for additional deaths in the pandemic maybe thousands but we don’t know directly and generally unfit to be PM

Blair is responsible for a million dead human beings in the Middle East.

It’s a difficult question in short but Iraq is the worst thing this country has done in my lifetime.
Let’s see what history does to their legacies. Methinks Johnson will be infamous, whereas Blair forgotten.
 
You didn’t say that, and I didn’t say he couldn’t have done worse. I said he couldn’t have done much worse. Then you went on and gave two examples which are arguable at best.

He cornered the market in securing vaccines which got us 6 weeks ahead of the EU. It somewhat mitigated his fuck up of letting in delta early but you can’t really credit him for that. The EU have caught up now so all the ill will generated was a bit pointless other than for bragging rights.

The lockdown last winter was a month late. If he’d gone a month earlier most scientists reckoned it would have been a shorter lockdown and we wouldn’t have been hit as hard in January. So again, he could have done slightly worse by not locking down but he certainly could and should have done much better.
You won’t find me arguing your last paragraph.

It was a gamble on the vaccines and he deserves credit for that but that’s about all he deserves credit for.
 
I wonder if people actually realise that on the vote for war in Iraq only 2 Tories voted against it, 84 labour MPs voted against including one Jeremy Corbyn.

If the Tory party acting in the "National interest" they love to go on about had actually all voted against the war, it would never have happened.

I am no fan of Blair, but on this issue the Tories were complicit.
 

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